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Doves

Postby sjndknichols » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:33 pm

It's only 25 days away and i am ready to kill something has anybody been seeing any
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Re: Doves

Postby i_willie12 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:27 pm

they are every where right now!!!!!!!!!! Probably all been gone by time seasons gets here! just like the teal! Serious note seems like last 2-3 years a major cool front or hurricane has come through right at season and pushed them all out or else where.... Hell its suppose to be 78 tommorrow here! :eek:
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Re: Doves

Postby DroppnDrakes » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:36 pm

Ive been seeing them around a lot lately
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Re: Doves

Postby Jerbo » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:05 pm

I've been seeing a few here and there but I'm wondering if the farmers ate going to be able to get the corn out. It seems like here in the SW part of the state that we haven't had a day without rain for the past week and a half. All the soil is really saturated
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Re: Doves

Postby i_willie12 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:17 pm

Heck they wont turn a combine on till end of Sept this year!!!! Corn still tassling around here..
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Re: Doves

Postby B.E.Nelli » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:05 pm

Our Milo will be out...always a dove favorite in central MO! :-)
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Re: Doves

Postby swampchicken » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:27 pm

Little speed demons are some mighty tasty birds they go excellent with cold beer!
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Re: Doves

Postby B.E.Nelli » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:15 pm

Fold some cheese and a jalapeno inside, and wrapped in bacon. Lightly grilled, oh man my mouth is watering.
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Re: Doves

Postby swampchicken » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:46 am

B.E.Nelli wrote:Fold some cheese and a jalapeno inside, and wrapped in bacon. Lightly grilled, oh man my mouth is watering.


Now you got me thinking about cookin! sprinkle tonys wrap in bacon marinade in worshishire half a day and lightly spray apple juice on them while they are on the grill. :beer:
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Re: Doves

Postby fowlhabit4 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:04 am

I found a potential field today, been out scouting and a found a motherload!! Big field,just hope they hold out, dog is a year old, shes ready for some feathers.
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Re: Doves

Postby sjndknichols » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:10 pm

what kind of field did you find i have a couple fields that are second crop beans but i don't know if they will come up high enough to get the doves out of them.
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Re: Doves

Postby swampchicken » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:31 pm

too early for scouting field in my opinion but have seen a few of them that would be real nice if i could hunt them tommorow.
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Re: Doves

Postby Normmcclean » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:50 am

They look great till there's 200 guys there with no self control on low flyers. Dang deer decimated my sunflowers this year so it looks like I might get to enjoy slugging it out on public field wasn't too bad last year with the rain keeping crowds down. But with a holiday weekend and good weather it could be crazy. I just hope I can find a quiet spot off the main field to try a help my nephew get his first dove. Good luck to all
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Re: Doves

Postby fowlhabit4 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:31 pm

sjndknichols wrote:what kind of field did you find i have a couple fields that are second crop beans but i don't know if they will come up high enough to get the doves out of them.


Its a harvested wheat field.


swampchicken wrote:too early for scouting field in my opinion but have seen a few of them that would be real nice if i could hunt them tommorow.


Never too early!! How could you ever think that. Plus its only 20 days away. I scout corn fields when they get planted to see what farmers will be cutting silage to talk hunting rights early. But I enjoy hunting private ground, so scouting early pays off big for me. Do what you do though :grooving:
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Re: Doves

Postby CUT'EM ALL JACK » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:01 pm

ha ha, never ever too early, :thumbsup: I have about 3 acres of milo that's headed out (has about 30 corn stalks mixed in tasseling well, along with an understory of wheat, and maybe 7 or 8 sunflowers) I hope the seed comes out full enough for me to brush hog it down some before the opener. anyone know how long it takes milo to turn brown on the heads and start seeding? they are mostly all seeded out, just all still green seeds. oh ya and........... only 16 more days!!!! that's like 2 weeks!!!!! :clapping: :grooving: :beer:
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Re: Doves

Postby fowlhabit4 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:39 pm

:grooving: :grooving: :grooving:
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Re: Doves

Postby missouriducks » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:15 pm

CUT'EM ALL JACK wrote:ha ha, never ever too early, :thumbsup: I have about 3 acres of milo that's headed out (has about 30 corn stalks mixed in tasseling well, along with an understory of wheat, and maybe 7 or 8 sunflowers) I hope the seed comes out full enough for me to brush hog it down some before the opener. anyone know how long it takes milo to turn brown on the heads and start seeding? they are mostly all seeded out, just all still green seeds. oh ya and........... only 16 more days!!!! that's like 2 weeks!!!!! :clapping: :grooving: :beer:

Not tryin to be Johnny law but you can just brush hog a crop field and hunt over it missouri considers it baiting.
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Re: Doves

Postby fowlhabit4 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:34 pm

I thought that too! Does it have to be cut for 30+ days to be huntable??
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Re: Doves

Postby gride830 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:13 pm

It is baiting. Or gray area or baiting....or who really knows. I've been told by agents that they allow cutting sunflowers for doves but nothing else. Same can be said for all baiting laws. Graaayyyyyyy areas. Ask your agents then hope the next agents who comes along feels the same way and doesn't write you up. Lawyers could have a field day with baiting laws in court. I haven't seen many baiting laws hold up in court unless its very obvious. Good luck.
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Re: Doves

Postby swampchicken » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:44 pm

Just remember that doves are a migratory bird and any infraction of the law with them and you will be dealing with a federal prosecuter that doesn't like that as part of thier job. :shades:
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Re: Doves

Postby Normmcclean » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:07 pm

Mow the field and top dress it with winter wheat then its considered normal agricultural practice and you will be fine in the eyes of the law. Make the dirt as smooth as you can dove like a nice dirt ground to feed in. Then broadcast #200 of winter wheat for your "deer" food plot. Dove should pile in. Good luck
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Re: Doves

Postby CUT'EM ALL JACK » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:42 pm

I knew someone would try to make a statement like that, that's why I was prepared :thumbsup: . my county conservation officer (Billy Barton over iron county Missouri) is a good friend of mine, and also an avid outdoorsman. he personally told me that with dove, it is completely legal to manipulate a crop field however you please, as long as you aren't dumping seed right on the ground, you can mow, cut, chop, etc. as long as you aren't dumping or spreading seed or bait out, its legal. there is no law stating I cant mow down a crop field, then proceed to hunt dove over it. Billy has been a part of this milo field since day 1. yes dove are a migratory bird, but they are not controlled federally like waterfowl, that's why you don't have to buy a federal "dove stamp" to hunt dove. he did say that it is illegal to manipulate a crop for waterfowl however because of federal law dictating it. dove are regulated more so by state law.
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Re: Doves

Postby CUT'EM ALL JACK » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:07 pm

here is an EXACT quote from the 2013 migratory bird hunting digest: "For doves only, grain or feed distributed or scattered solely as the result of manipulation of an agricultural crop on the land where grown does not constitute baiting." And that is a direct quote. I guess you learn something new every day huh? :thumbsup:
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Re: Doves

Postby Normmcclean » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:09 pm

Just hope my new gun come in time
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Re: Doves

Postby swampchicken » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:40 pm

CUT'EM ALL JACK wrote:I knew someone would try to make a statement like that, that's why I was prepared :thumbsup: . my county conservation officer (Billy Barton over iron county Missouri) is a good friend of mine, and also an avid outdoorsman. he personally told me that with dove, it is completely legal to manipulate a crop field however you please, as long as you aren't dumping seed right on the ground, you can mow, cut, chop, etc. as long as you aren't dumping or spreading seed or bait out, its legal. there is no law stating I cant mow down a crop field, then proceed to hunt dove over it. Billy has been a part of this milo field since day 1. yes dove are a migratory bird, but they are not controlled federally like waterfowl, that's why you don't have to buy a federal "dove stamp" to hunt dove. he did say that it is illegal to manipulate a crop for waterfowl however because of federal law dictating it. dove are regulated more so by state law.



Trust me on this one offenders are procecuted by a federal procecuter. :shades: They are a federal bird because they migrate. You cannot top sow winter wheat in august for a dove field it is not normal farming practice for that time of year. just to let you guys know. Good luck to all and a mowed milo field should provide many good shoots. Just mow new chunks out of it every week to give them new food.
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