they are every where right now!!!!!!!!!! Probably all been gone by time seasons gets here! just like the teal! Serious note seems like last 2-3 years a major cool front or hurricane has come through right at season and pushed them all out or else where.... Hell its suppose to be 78 tommorrow here!
I've been seeing a few here and there but I'm wondering if the farmers ate going to be able to get the corn out. It seems like here in the SW part of the state that we haven't had a day without rain for the past week and a half. All the soil is really saturated
Now you got me thinking about cookin! sprinkle tonys wrap in bacon marinade in worshishire half a day and lightly spray apple juice on them while they are on the grill. :beer:
I found a potential field today, been out scouting and a found a motherload!! Big field,just hope they hold out, dog is a year old, shes ready for some feathers.
what kind of field did you find i have a couple fields that are second crop beans but i don't know if they will come up high enough to get the doves out of them.
They look great till there's 200 guys there with no self control on low flyers. Dang deer decimated my sunflowers this year so it looks like I might get to enjoy slugging it out on public field wasn't too bad last year with the rain keeping crowds down. But with a holiday weekend and good weather it could be crazy. I just hope I can find a quiet spot off the main field to try a help my nephew get his first dove. Good luck to all
what kind of field did you find i have a couple fields that are second crop beans but i don't know if they will come up high enough to get the doves out of them.
Never too early!! How could you ever think that. Plus its only 20 days away. I scout corn fields when they get planted to see what farmers will be cutting silage to talk hunting rights early. But I enjoy hunting private ground, so scouting early pays off big for me. Do what you do though :grooving:
ha ha, never ever too early, :thumbsup: I have about 3 acres of milo that's headed out (has about 30 corn stalks mixed in tasseling well, along with an understory of wheat, and maybe 7 or 8 sunflowers) I hope the seed comes out full enough for me to brush hog it down some before the opener. anyone know how long it takes milo to turn brown on the heads and start seeding? they are mostly all seeded out, just all still green seeds. oh ya and........... only 16 more days!!!! that's like 2 weeks!!!!! :clapping: :grooving: :beer:
ha ha, never ever too early, :thumbsup: I have about 3 acres of milo that's headed out (has about 30 corn stalks mixed in tasseling well, along with an understory of wheat, and maybe 7 or 8 sunflowers) I hope the seed comes out full enough for me to brush hog it down some before the opener. anyone know how long it takes milo to turn brown on the heads and start seeding? they are mostly all seeded out, just all still green seeds. oh ya and........... only 16 more days!!!! that's like 2 weeks!!!!! :clapping: :grooving: :beer:
It is baiting. Or gray area or baiting....or who really knows. I've been told by agents that they allow cutting sunflowers for doves but nothing else. Same can be said for all baiting laws. Graaayyyyyyy areas. Ask your agents then hope the next agents who comes along feels the same way and doesn't write you up. Lawyers could have a field day with baiting laws in court. I haven't seen many baiting laws hold up in court unless its very obvious. Good luck.
Just remember that doves are a migratory bird and any infraction of the law with them and you will be dealing with a federal prosecuter that doesn't like that as part of thier job. :shades:
Mow the field and top dress it with winter wheat then its considered normal agricultural practice and you will be fine in the eyes of the law. Make the dirt as smooth as you can dove like a nice dirt ground to feed in. Then broadcast #200 of winter wheat for your "deer" food plot. Dove should pile in. Good luck
I knew someone would try to make a statement like that, that's why I was prepared :thumbsup: . my county conservation officer (Billy Barton over iron county Missouri) is a good friend of mine, and also an avid outdoorsman. he personally told me that with dove, it is completely legal to manipulate a crop field however you please, as long as you aren't dumping seed right on the ground, you can mow, cut, chop, etc. as long as you aren't dumping or spreading seed or bait out, its legal. there is no law stating I cant mow down a crop field, then proceed to hunt dove over it. Billy has been a part of this milo field since day 1. yes dove are a migratory bird, but they are not controlled federally like waterfowl, that's why you don't have to buy a federal "dove stamp" to hunt dove. he did say that it is illegal to manipulate a crop for waterfowl however because of federal law dictating it. dove are regulated more so by state law.
here is an EXACT quote from the 2013 migratory bird hunting digest: "For doves only, grain or feed distributed or scattered solely as the result of manipulation of an agricultural crop on the land where grown does not constitute baiting." And that is a direct quote. I guess you learn something new every day huh? :thumbsup:
I knew someone would try to make a statement like that, that's why I was prepared :thumbsup: . my county conservation officer (Billy Barton over iron county Missouri) is a good friend of mine, and also an avid outdoorsman. he personally told me that with dove, it is completely legal to manipulate a crop field however you please, as long as you aren't dumping seed right on the ground, you can mow, cut, chop, etc. as long as you aren't dumping or spreading seed or bait out, its legal. there is no law stating I cant mow down a crop field, then proceed to hunt dove over it. Billy has been a part of this milo field since day 1. yes dove are a migratory bird, but they are not controlled federally like waterfowl, that's why you don't have to buy a federal "dove stamp" to hunt dove. he did say that it is illegal to manipulate a crop for waterfowl however because of federal law dictating it. dove are regulated more so by state law.
Trust me on this one offenders are procecuted by a federal procecuter. :shades: They are a federal bird because they migrate. You cannot top sow winter wheat in august for a dove field it is not normal farming practice for that time of year. just to let you guys know. Good luck to all and a mowed milo field should provide many good shoots. Just mow new chunks out of it every week to give them new food.
I knew someone would try to make a statement like that, that's why I was prepared :thumbsup: . my county conservation officer (Billy Barton over iron county Missouri) is a good friend of mine, and also an avid outdoorsman. he personally told me that with dove, it is completely legal to manipulate a crop field however you please, as long as you aren't dumping seed right on the ground, you can mow, cut, chop, etc. as long as you aren't dumping or spreading seed or bait out, its legal. there is no law stating I cant mow down a crop field, then proceed to hunt dove over it. Billy has been a part of this milo field since day 1. yes dove are a migratory bird, but they are not controlled federally like waterfowl, that's why you don't have to buy a federal "dove stamp" to hunt dove. he did say that it is illegal to manipulate a crop for waterfowl however because of federal law dictating it. dove are regulated more so by state law.
Trust me on this one offenders are procecuted by a federal procecuter. :shades: They are a federal bird because they migrate. You cannot top sow winter wheat in august for a dove field it is not normal farming practice for that time of year. just to let you guys know. Good luck to all and a mowed milo field should provide many good shoots. Just mow new chunks out of it every week to give them new food.
This is exactly right. you CANNOT SEW SEED FOR ATTRACTING DOVE! (other than the normal practice of planting wheat in a normal agricultural manner, kind of a grey area to me) But, you can legally manipulate sunflower, milo, millet, etc. in any manner you want for DOVE ONLY. as long as its on the same ground it was grown on, as in right there, you cant harvest then spread it out over an open field. and yes dove are a federal bird, but this particular situation of manipulating a field is regulated by our Missouri state laws, as well as federal.
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