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Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby Broozer5 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:26 pm

I was wondering if anyone has ever hunted, or has information about hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana. I have been trying to get ahold of them, but I have not been able too. I was just wondering what type of permits you have to get to hunt it, state or just a reservation permit? Stuff like that. I was thinking about hunting Antelope.
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Postby NONYA » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:23 pm

good luck,dont think its gonna happen.Have you been to the crow res? :eek:
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Postby nemont » Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:19 pm

You would have way better luck with the Fort Belknap reservation. You must use a tribal guide but you can still hunt on alot of land and the goats are plentiful.

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Postby Broozer5 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:38 pm

Nonya- No I have not been to the Crow reservation... Whats it like?
nemont- By tribal guide, you mean like hire someone to go with you?
I really appreciate your guys help and opinions, that is exactly what I was looking for.
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Postby Sodrat » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:53 am

I have never seen a lot of big game (almost nothing) on the Crow Res. Put in for a 700 antelope tag, lots of public area to hunt, half of South Dakota is hunting there.
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Postby NONYA » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:57 am

If you can find a living lope on the crow res he can run at lightspeed and dodge bullets,the 700 area is a WAY better bet for your hunt,you will have tons of block managment access and plentiful antelope to hunt,you can also knock on a few doors and get access to some private land that doesnt get hunte very often,arive early and do some scouting,stop and talk to ranchers in the area,it will pay off. :thumbsup:
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Postby Broozer5 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:36 pm

Awsome, thanks alot guys! That is pretty much what everyone has told me is to hunt area 700. I am hoping to do some scouting for deer while I am there, to maybe hunt the following year.
I have never even been to Montana before, so I am pretty excited about the trip. We are hoping to do this next season.
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Postby cowboyjwm » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:20 pm

Hey,
I live in CA, but own a section on the Crow Res. south of Hardin on the Bighorn River. We have an old farm/ranch and use it to mostly hunt and fish on the Bighorn. Forget big game on the Res. Anything bigger than a large German shepard had been taken down by the folks on the res. They can hunt, fish, trap - whatever - whenever they want - all year long. Their tribal 'game wardens' have become much more active in the last coule of years and do more harrassing than anything else.
If you really, REALLY want to hunt on tribal land, then you must have a tribal permit to do so. Getting one of those is an exercise in "I can put up with anything". You first go to the tribal office in Crow Agency to fill out the forms for the types of hunting you want to do on the Res. The 'clerk' then figures out how much you owe to do that, but you can not pay the clerk with anythjing other than a US Postal money order!. So, with the amount owed information, you then go to the Crow Agency PO and get a money order for the amount specified. You then return to the 'clerk' at Crow Agency with the MO to get the appropriaate permits. All this crapola takes at least a half day.
If it is antelope you're after, I would HIGHLY recommend looking at the areas just south of the MT/WY border. I have driven the Interstate (I90) many times from MT to MY, and there are HERDS of antelope in WY along I90.
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Postby phutch30 » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:12 am

Ive turkey hunted it many times. There are actually some really nice antelope there. I have found several very nice whitetail sheds there also, so there must be a few big bucks. My buddies family owns a big ranch (native american) on the Res that has fantastic pheasant hunting on it.
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Re: Been there - Done that

Postby NONYA » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:54 am

cowboyjwm wrote:Hey,
I live in CA, but own a section on the Crow Res. south of Hardin on the Bighorn River. We have an old farm/ranch and use it to mostly hunt and fish on the Bighorn. Forget big game on the Res. Anything bigger than a large German shepard had been taken down by the folks on the res. They can hunt, fish, trap - whatever - whenever they want - all year long. Their tribal 'game wardens' have become much more active in the last coule of years and do more harrassing than anything else.
If you really, REALLY want to hunt on tribal land, then you must have a tribal permit to do so. Getting one of those is an exercise in "I can put up with anything". You first go to the tribal office in Crow Agency to fill out the forms for the types of hunting you want to do on the Res. The 'clerk' then figures out how much you owe to do that, but you can not pay the clerk with anythjing other than a US Postal money order!. So, with the amount owed information, you then go to the Crow Agency PO and get a money order for the amount specified. You then return to the 'clerk' at Crow Agency with the MO to get the appropriaate permits. All this crapola takes at least a half day.
If it is antelope you're after, I would HIGHLY recommend looking at the areas just south of the MT/WY border. I have driven the Interstate (I90) many times from MT to MY, and there are HERDS of antelope in WY along I90.
Good luck


Thats EXACTLY how it works,you pay to hunt and you arnt going to find anything where you can hunt.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby theairboater » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:38 am

I have spent a lot of time on the crow.There is lots of wild game.But i would not hunt big game there again.I hunted with a permit and was guided by the tribal game wardens.The country is spectacular.The people very interesting.I was indited by the feds for hunting there.Even though their treaty says the crow can manage their hunting of game as they see fit,the feds claimed that the lacey act trumps the treaty.None of the crow showed up at the federal courthouse to testify on my behalve.I was forced to take a plea to stay out of 3 years in the pen,and to have the felonies dropped down.Cost me 8 grand,2years parole,loss of work time,and lots of stress.Had some fantastic times there.Just isn't worth it.Best goat hunting is in wyoming anyway.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby wingnutty » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:50 am

I have spent a lot of time on the crow.There is lots of wild game.But i would not hunt big game there again.I hunted with a permit and was guided by the tribal game wardens.The country is spectacular.The people very interesting.I was indited by the feds for hunting there.Even though their treaty says the crow can manage their hunting of game as they see fit,the feds claimed that the lacey act trumps the treaty.None of the crow showed up at the federal courthouse to testify on my behalve.I was forced to take a plea to stay out of 3 years in the pen,and to have the felonies dropped down.Cost me 8 grand,2years parole,loss of work time,and lots of stress.Had some fantastic times there.Just isn't worth it.Best goat hunting is in wyoming anyway


:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: Yeah, I'm sure there isn't 2 sides to that story and I'm sure the 'feds' were just out to get you :no: :lol3: Nobody faces 3 years of jail time and 8K in fines for game violations unless they REALLY did something wrong. Hell, most of the poachers who shoot big deer/elk/moose out of season only get a could grand worth of fines.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby Troutslayer » Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:47 am

theairboater wrote:I have spent a lot of time on the crow.There is lots of wild game.But i would not hunt big game there again.I hunted with a permit and was guided by the tribal game wardens.The country is spectacular.The people very interesting.I was indited by the feds for hunting there.Even though their treaty says the crow can manage their hunting of game as they see fit,the feds claimed that the lacey act trumps the treaty.None of the crow showed up at the federal courthouse to testify on my behalve.I was forced to take a plea to stay out of 3 years in the pen,and to have the felonies dropped down.Cost me 8 grand,2years parole,loss of work time,and lots of stress.Had some fantastic times there.Just isn't worth it.Best goat hunting is in wyoming anyway.


Oh man do I want to hear this story in detail.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby phutch30 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:43 am

The only thing you can hunt there without a tribal guide is upland birds and waterfowl. There are no accurate maps either for roads or land ownership, and there is lots of private land mixed in with the tribal. None of the land is marked.The private landowners are NOT pleased when they find you on thier land. I hunt there on occasion and its a pain until you learn the area.
....its like taking x-lax when you have a bad cough. It wont clear up your lungs, but it sure stops you from coughing
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby PTROOFER FTFOWLER » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:47 am

If you are coming to MT please keep a few of our more obscure laws in mind, espically number three if you are going to the res.


In Montana....

•It is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck without a chaperone.
•It is a felony for a wife to open her husband's mail.
Seven or more indians are considered a raiding or war party and it is legal to shoot them.
•It is a misdemeanor to show movies that depict acts of felonious crime.
•It is illegal for married women to go fishing alone on Sundays, and illegal for unmarried women to fish alone at all.
•When a prisoner is discharged from the penal system, the local authorities are supposed to give you a horse and a pistol.
I'm the type of guy who "cups" his hand over his butt, farts, and dishes it out like a soup kitchen.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby phutch30 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:31 pm

:no:
....its like taking x-lax when you have a bad cough. It wont clear up your lungs, but it sure stops you from coughing
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby MTwaterdog » Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:58 pm

I use to live in Billings and that was the LAST place i'd go to. I know people that grew up on the res and if they looked white they would be stopped and had to go through the family tree to prove they could be on the res without an escort. Its a whole different world on the crow res. As far as the 700 area is concerned there are a lot of Antelope but a lot of the people charge to hunt their property anywhere from $100 to $250. and yes those tags went unfilled that year.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby Extreme Accuracy » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:10 pm

Actually Wingnutty you might want do a little research on the FED's cracking down on hunting on the Indian reservations before you make statements about it... They have been prosecuting non Indians for hunting on reservations quite a bit lately.

“A federal appeals court has affirmed a Montana regulation that bans non-Indians from big game hunting within American Indian reservations, even if the land is privately owned.

A Colorado-based legal foundation challenged the ban on behalf of a Montana man in 2005, saying it discriminated against non-Indians and violated private-property rights.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in its ruling during July that the regulation was legal. The court said it was not a racial ban but one based on tribal membership, making it political.

The ruling upheld a February 2007 decision from U.S. District Judge Richard Cebull in Billings, in a lawsuit brought by Randy Roberts.”
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby TopWop » Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:50 pm

Dude, that thread is dead and VERY old.
Not sure about your accuracy but your timing is WAY off.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby theairboater » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:52 pm

wingnutty wrote:
I have spent a lot of time on the crow.There is lots of wild game.But i would not hunt big game there again.I hunted with a permit and was guided by the tribal game wardens.The country is spectacular.The people very interesting.I was indited by the feds for hunting there.Even though their treaty says the crow can manage their hunting of game as they see fit,the feds claimed that the lacey act trumps the treaty.None of the crow showed up at the federal courthouse to testify on my behalve.I was forced to take a plea to stay out of 3 years in the pen,and to have the felonies dropped down.Cost me 8 grand,2years parole,loss of work time,and lots of stress.Had some fantastic times there.Just isn't worth it.Best goat hunting is in wyoming anyway


:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: Yeah, I'm sure there isn't 2 sides to that story and I'm sure the 'feds' were just out to get you :no: :lol3: Nobody faces 3 years of jail time and 8K in fines for game violations unless they REALLY did something wrong. Hell, most of the poachers who shoot big deer/elk/moose out of season only get a could grand worth of fines. Wow wingnutjob,where in my post did i say i got fined $8,000?I said it cost me $8,000.You should run for prez of you're kindegarden class.
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby phutch30 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:12 am

Ahhh the post that just wont die....


................heres a little more CPR

The crow now require a tribal guide for all hunting on reservation lands. However one can ususally be quickly found outside the Hardin McDonalds......................quality varys greatly
....its like taking x-lax when you have a bad cough. It wont clear up your lungs, but it sure stops you from coughing
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby wingnutty » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:43 pm

Not sure why airboats quotes makes it look like I made those comments, as those were his, not mine :huh:
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby phutch30 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:20 am

Why? WHY? REALLY?
Cuz your a mean jerk who doesn’t understand what happened. He was rail roaded...... totally innocent....mostly. :biggrin:
....its like taking x-lax when you have a bad cough. It wont clear up your lungs, but it sure stops you from coughing
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Re: Hunting the Crow Indian Reservation in Montana???

Postby wingnutty » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:51 am

phutch30 wrote:Why? WHY? REALLY?
Cuz your a mean jerk who doesn’t understand what happened. He was rail roaded...... totally innocent....mostly. :biggrin:


I think this is some sort of agenda of his to bring this thread to the surface once a year so that it stays 'topic'.

So the guy decides to push the boundaries on the rez and hunt big game on private property, even though it is explicitly clear that hunting of big game is not allowed for non-members, even on private property...then he gets busted and is mad cause nobody from the tribe goes to his trial to defend him :huh: I live on the Flathead Rez, same deal with regards to hunting and nobody is dumb enough to actually push the boundaries because they know they will lose. It's simple, if you want to hunt big game on your property, don't buy property on a reservation that doesn't allow it :fingerhead: Maybe folks should actually be appreciative that some tribes allow hunting at all on reservations, it's their choice after all. Gsshhh, some people's kids :no:
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