Frank Lopez wrote: Slack Tide wrote:
h2o dog wrote:So my buddy goes on to tell me that he’s ticked at me for getting us thrown off the property. I ask him why he thought it was my fault. He responded by saying that I shouldn’t have got the State Police involved and should’ve cut my losses. And the other buddy of mine that hunts the property with us, sides with him, and won’t talk to me. I finally get ahold of him and asked why he wasn’t talking with me. He said he was ticked at me for getting the State Police involved too, which got us kicked off the property, and that I should’ve “thought it through more before reporting it to the State Police.”
I agree. I've stayed out of this one for a while, but I think some of the facts are being skewed. Here's how the DEC would have treated things, you left your decoys in the field, technically, you abandoned them. We had an incident very similar happen here last year, but it was with a tree stand. A friend of mine was hunting a piece of property that he had permission to, though nothing in writing. He left to go to lunch, figuring to return to his stand for the afternoon. On his way back in, he encounters three guys in full camo walking out and carrying his stand. He confronts them and the give him his stand. He asks them if they have permission and they say no. He calls the DEC. DEC tells him that he's luck to get his stand back because he actually abandoned it. He pressed the trespassing issue and the ECO asked him if he had written permission to hunt the property. He said he didn't, only a verbal, but they didn't have any permission. The ECO "advised' him not to press the issue.
Bottom line, don't leave your equipment in the field and expect it to be there when you return.
I totally DISSAGREE with both of you!!
ON SEVERAL levels....
how does a land owners dangled fruit of hunting permission trump WHATS RIGHT AND WHATS WRONG??
secondly how does a normal person think that a farmer is deathly affraid to have the state police on their land...HUGE RED FLAGS
at what level of ILLEGAL activity do you guys finally decide that hunting permission isnt worth the crime?? you find that the farmer is molesting the neighbors kid?
you find the farmer is dumping toxic wastes in the swamp??
we as a society are SUPPOSED to go to the cops for help..NOT turn a blind eye or let people rip us off, because???? I dont know because WHAT??
i realize that cops are cops and they just dont think the crime is worth THEIR trouble sometimes....but whats the downside???
oh the farmer is growing pot....thats one down side? the farmer is doesing SOMETHING ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!
and you guys think the hunting permission is worth your buddies $300 decoy spread????
I dont want to pretend I am friends with a jerk farmer who values his PRIVACY over my slashed tires, or stolen decoys or shot dog...or WHATEVER might be the ILLEGAL thing someone did aginst ME!
I an totally seeing this 180 from what you guys are
and as far as the police saying to the guy, we cant do anything or that your tree stand was abandonded...I have the freaking explanation for that... the dammm cop is lazy......thats his way of saying.,...dont bother me, and dont make me go do meanial tasks, that i dont want to do...
I have seen it time and again...a cop gives you a BS answer, JUST to move you along.....because doing his job at that point is 10 times more work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is right and wrong... and sure there are fights not worth fighting...... but suffering monetary loss or worse.....doesnt fit one of those
id give up hunting if I had to shut my mouth when someone stole my stuff, or only hunt that guys farm..