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Waterfowl die off

Postby QUACK3XS » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:30 pm

I rarely post much anymore, but i thought this was worth it. I work right on Lake Erie & over the last few weeks we have seen high numbers of fowl acting very strange & eventually die. Some of the species are ....Wight winged Scoters, Lots of Bulebills, Canada Geese, Mute Swans, Canvasbacks etc... It seems like they just can't fly & get their feathers froze to the ground. Today alone I unfroze 6 bluebills,2 Cans & 1 Scoter, I also collected the bodies of 8 Cans, 10 Broadbills & 2 Geese. Kinda strange :huh:
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby toolmaker » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:39 pm

how many bands??????

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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby QUACK3XS » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:19 pm

Thankfully ....none.
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Slack Tide » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:23 pm

Hey.......How've you been?
Oddly enough....I had 2 black duck drop dead on the ice out back last week and I said the same thing.......interesting...
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby QUACK3XS » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:52 pm

I've been good, black ducks ...huh :huh: the alive ones I come upon are either frozen to the ground/ice or acting like they can't fly
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Slack Tide » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:53 am

I just spoke to a good friend/retired DEC biologist.....who forwarded our discoveries to Bryan Swift..>DEC Bio dept....who advised that we collect specimens and give them to the local constabulary for eval...could be botulism or an avian disease....I got mine :thumbsup:
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Frank Lopez » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:43 am

Slack Tide wrote:I just spoke to a good friend/retired DEC biologist.....who forwarded our discoveries to Bryan Swift..>DEC Bio dept....who advised that we collect specimens and give them to the local constabulary for eval...could be botulism or an avian disease....I got mine :thumbsup:


Slack,

Lake Erie is a long way from Long Island. And while botulism or avian diseases could be the issue, I think it would be quite a coincidence. I will say that during the last week or two of the season down here I was noticing some sickly looking birds, particularly brant. We had some large rafts of brant around, but there were a few birds that would always stay to the edges of the flocks, to the point of landing 40 or 50 yards away from the main body. We shot a couple of them and they all had feathers missing from the breast area. The down was still in tact, but the feathers were all broken off. It was like they were frozen to the ice at some point and ripped the feathers while trying to break free.

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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Slack Tide » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:03 am

But the dead birds that Tim is finding in the local pond is not.....
Either way...for me to see 2 dead blacks 100 feet apart on the same day...is not common or normal..I just mentioned it to my guy and he encouraged me to bag 'em...what the hell?
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Krazy Yankee » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:47 pm

It sounds like Bot E to me. When you collected the birds, was there a yellow stain on the feathers surrounding the vent?
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Slack Tide » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:29 pm

Krazy Yankee wrote: the vent?


The Poop-Shoot?
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Brown Dot?
Down Button?
2Hole?
Option #2?
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Whistlerwhittler » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:48 pm

That's too bad. Do you think it's a disease thing or does it look like they are starving from lack of access to food (lots of frozen water)? Does the DEC know? If not, it couldn't hurt to give them a heads up.
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby toolmaker » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:58 pm

Slack Tide wrote:
Krazy Yankee wrote: the vent?


The Poop-Shoot?
Coin Slot?
Brown Dot?
Down Button?
2Hole?
Option #2?

so obviously you understood the question....now lets hear the answer!

ah, please..

nah, cancel the please :fingerpt:
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Slack Tide » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:34 pm

Gotta check tomorrow....it's in a bag in the shed.....
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Slack Tide » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:04 am

toolmaker wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:
Krazy Yankee wrote: the vent?


The Poop-Shoot?
Coin Slot?
Brown Dot?
Down Button?
2Hole?
Option #2?

so obviously you understood the question....now lets hear the answer!

ah, please..

nah, cancel the please :fingerpt:
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What's with the attitude?....
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby toolmaker » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:46 am

Slack Tide wrote:
toolmaker wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:
Krazy Yankee wrote: the vent?


The Poop-Shoot?
Coin Slot?
Brown Dot?
Down Button?
2Hole?
Option #2?

so obviously you understood the question....now lets hear the answer!

ah, please..

nah, cancel the please :fingerpt:
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What's with the attitude?....


ha....... what order do you read these threads in?? ha ha ha


no attitude buddy just roughin ya up a little ha ha ha

I figure a die hard Loing GIIIland watafowla like yerself.....would be tastin the 'vent" to find out where that suckers been!

its still goose season down there!!!

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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby KRB » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:47 am

toolmaker wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:
toolmaker wrote:
Slack Tide wrote:
Krazy Yankee wrote: the vent?


The Poop-Shoot?
Coin Slot?
Brown Dot?
Down Button?
2Hole?
Option #2?

so obviously you understood the question....now lets hear the answer!

ah, please..

nah, cancel the please :fingerpt:
the tool


What's with the attitude?....


ha....... what order do you read these threads in?? ha ha ha


no attitude buddy just roughin ya up a little ha ha ha

I figure a die hard Loing GIIIland watafowla like yerself.....would be tastin the 'vent" to find out where that suckers been!

its still goose season down there!!!

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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby papageno » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:49 pm

About 15 years ago, the last time the Chesapeake froze up before this year, there was a big die off from avian botulism when the ice brokeā€¦ mainly squaws.
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby B-LO » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:24 pm

Saw the same on the upper river. A good amount of dead birds. Divers mostly
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby Slack Tide » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:28 am

Gotta get out there and get those bands!
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby sssurfertim » Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:17 pm

Found two banded geese dead this month with a few others, first was banded in New Brunswick and the other I found Sunday came from New Hampshire.
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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby toolmaker » Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:06 pm

the die off up on Lake Erie was from starvation , the DEC announced


they just stayed there and died from lack of access to shallow water ...

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Re: Waterfowl die off

Postby longlakesd » Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:50 pm

If the cause is botulism it sounds like it is a domino affect, once a dead carcass filled with the botulism toxin is present and it is decomposed by maggots, the maggots will be poisoned by the toxin as well. Therefore if any ducks accidentally feed on the maggots which contain the toxin then they will become poisoned as well. Therefore we need to pick up these carcasses and dispose of them. This sucks.
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