usmchunter wrote:my partner talked to a GW and was told that due to the increased amounts of rain this year it reduced the salinity in the waters thereby keeping the mussels and other prefered food sources out of the rivers thus the scaup has not had a reason to hang out....seems plausible.
We are seeing some but nowhere near what I was seeing at this time last year. Still a rookie so I don't have much experience to draw from.
gangrig25 wrote:SO YOU WANT A PAT ON THE BACK OR WHAT
If your partner knew anything at all he would have had his Federal stamp ATTACHED to his license
Federal Duck Stamp - In addition to the North Carolina waterfowl privilege, waterfowl hunters 16 years of age and older are required to carry on their person the federal duck stamp, signed in ink across the face.
If applicable: sign, peel and attach to hunting license
sounds like an easy decisionThis is a guy that would rather hunt the river without the hassle of other hunters over hunting an impoundment that is covered up in yahoos and no birds.
Paul26 wrote:usmchunter: Funny, I passed that salinity observation on to Mr Walters, the senior Base Game Warden, about 7 years ago! I keep hearing it from people who speak to GW's near Lejeune!
I didn't make it up: I was told this by some gray-beards from Sneads Ferry.
For what it's worth: a retired Gy who crabs year-around says it's BS. He works around Courthouse Bay and says rain has no impact on the tiny clam/muscle population in the mud.
But.........fisherman defintitely say rain flushes the specks out of the rivers and pushes them into the sounds. So who knows.
I still think this year we have just been snake biten by the weather.
What I didn't know, until the other night, is those same netters are killing thousands of Bluebills in the Neuse and Pamlico Rivers and the Pamlico Sound.
https://www.change.org/petitions/north- ... nets-in-nc
You linked a article by American Bird Conservancy, hardly what one would consider a scientific study.seacern wrote:Boys, I linked the studies. Making it up? Deny, Deflect,Defend, Delay are commercial fishing practices to support unsustainable practices. Here is a link to the USFWS that shows similar concerns about gill nets and migratory birds, you know the FWS is the same crowd that manages waterfowl hunting, right?
<a title="Link added by VigLink" class="vglnk" href="http://www.fws.gov/raleigh/pdfs/Gill_Net_Fact_Sheet_Bird.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><span>http</span><span>://</span><span>www</span><span>.</span><span>fws</span><span>.</span><span>gov</span><span>/</span><span>raleigh</span><span>/</span><span>pdfs</span><span>/</span><span>Gill</span><span>_</span><span>Net</span><span>_</span><span>Fact</span><span>_</span><span>Sheet</span><span>_</span><span>Bird</span><span>.</span><span>pdf</span></a>
A "he said, she said" reference in an article published by a "conservation" group is not a direct quote.Are you Denying the the validity of a direct quote that three hundred scaup were caught in a Pamlico Sound estuary in one night in one gillnet?
What "facts", you haven't provided any. You made a statement that "thousands of ducks" with no facts to back it up.Are you Defecting the concern of the United States Fish and Wildlife Service? Are you Defending these facts as acceptable?
That's news to me, I don't catch many trout or many rockfish and I fish gillnets for a living.Did you know that during December and January duck season that gillnets are primarily set for speckle trout and stripers?
Did you know the reason they have been listed as overfished for 18 years is because cold-stun mortality is INCLUDED IN FISHING MORTALITY.Did you know that speckle trout are listed as depleted on the last NCDMF stock status and have been over-fished for eighteen years?
Did you know the reason for the closure is to allow the fish that surivved the freeze to spawn a few times before they can be caught in an effort to help the population rebound from a event caused by mother nature?Did you know the Director of the DMF shut down the speckle trout fishery until June due to concern over cold stun events and poor stock levels?
Did you know.........oh wait of course you didn't or did you just lie? You wouldn't lie would you? The Albemarle/Roanoke rockfish don't fall into the information you just listed. They are also "inland" and a much larger percentage of the rockfish taken inside. Your 90% internal waters is BS.Did you know that almost 90% of all inland stripers caught and sold commercially can be traced back to hatchery raised fish per both ECU and NCWRC studies?Do you know that those hatchery raised fish are a put and take fishery intended to enhance recreational opportunities and paid for solely by recreational taxes and fees?
What caused the decline in all the other species of ducks? I guess you would like to blame NC gillnets for the population decrease in the other flyways as well?I just didn't know that it had also impacted our once great diver hunting.
Dang man, would you stop telling lies. There's nothing anywhere, legal or otherwise that states speckled trout are a bycatch only fishery. There is a size limit and number of fish limit when the season is open, nothing else.seacern wrote:. There are a few of us trying to make a difference for the trout, drum and stripers. All three are supposed to be a bycatch only fishery to prevent regulatory discards. Gill netters are specifically targeting those species.
Is there a biological reason only recreational fishermen should be allowed to harvest them?Make a difference for the trout, drum and stripers
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