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Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Shurshot » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:56 pm

Looks like we will have a 60 day/4 bird limit once again. That is based on USFWS updated scaup assessment and the scaup harvest management protocol which calls for a Liberal Regulatory Alternative when certain #s are met. This is for the Atlantic and Mississippi Flyways, but more liberal in the other two Flyways. The Atlantic Flyway Council will reportedly recommend this alternative to USFWS and Service Regulations Committee when they meet for deliberations, afterwards the SRC will make it's recommendation to the USFWS Director for approval. Could be real soon.
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby ncbufflehead » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:22 pm

that would be nice
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter 2 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:54 pm

I can't remember ever having a 4 bird limit on Scaup? Rather strange that everyone was talking about Scaup being doomed just a few years ago, and even a one bird limit. Now, lets just bust the hell out of them because they had the audacity to increase their numbers by a few points. If the USFWS was a living breathing person, I would say they were bipolar. Yes! No! I hate you! I love you! Shutup! Talk to me! Don't go! Go away! :lol3:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby ncbufflehead » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:12 pm

Dingbatter 2 wrote:I can't remember ever having a 4 bird limit on Scaup?
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i remember when it was three
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter 2 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:16 pm

I remember 3 too. But never 4.
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Shurshot » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:54 pm

I think '98 was the last year we (NC) had a 4 bird limit before it went to 3. The info below, while only the proposal, was the bag limit adopted by us- best to my recollection. I do, however, remember the "bonus" scaup limit in the early 80's.

Atlantic Flyway–(Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Vermont, Virginia, and West Virginia) Ducks–A hunting season of not more than 60 days between October 1, 1998, and January 20, 1999. The proposed daily bag limit is six and may include no more than four scaup, four mallards (two hens), two wood ducks, two redheads, one black duck, one pintail, one mottled duck, one fulvous whistling duck, one canvasback, and four scoters.
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Paul26 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:53 am

I find it incredible that after 8+ years of hearing about the great scaup decline, they would go higher than I have seen since I arrived 11 years ago. With that said, I haven't a clue how they plan this stuff.

After last year's experience of hearing about the best bird count in anyone's memory, and then witnessing the worst diver season anyone can remember along coastal rivers, maybe the population increased.

Last year a 4 bird limit on bbills would not have made a difference. I did not have a single morning with 4 shooting chances.

If there was such a limit in my first 2 seasons here, 01-02 and 02-03, I think I would have brought 4 ducks home the majority of mornings I hunted in Dec and Jan
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby steelslinger » Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:21 pm

Paul26 wrote:I find it incredible that after 8+ years of hearing about the great scaup decline, they would go higher than I have seen since I arrived 11 years ago. With that said, I haven't a clue how they plan this stuff.

After last year's experience of hearing about the best bird count in anyone's memory, and then witnessing the worst diver season anyone can remember along coastal rivers, maybe the population increased.

Last year a 4 bird limit on bbills would not have made a difference. I did not have a single morning with 4 shooting chances.

If there was such a limit in my first 2 seasons here, 01-02 and 02-03, I think I would have brought 4 ducks home the majority of mornings I hunted in Dec and Jan


Ditto, last year was awful and 10 years ago it was out of control. Go figure how that works
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Trickworm6191 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:03 pm

it would be ok if the blackhead limit stayed at 2 ... the people who love to hunt divers, would still
do so and it benefit the bird for another year or so, same with the (can & the redhead)
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter 2 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:22 pm

Come the day after deer season every Junior DC will paint their Hot Buy mallards black and white and skybust the entire coast. :lol3:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:14 pm

Dingbatter 2 wrote:Come the day after deer season every Junior DC will paint their Hot Buy mallards black and white and skybust the entire coast. :lol3:


While blowing their mallard calls non stop :mad:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby ncbufflehead » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:37 pm

Dingbatter 2 wrote:Come the day after deer season every Junior DC will paint their Hot Buy mallards black and white and skybust the entire coast south of Dare County :lol3:

fixed it for you :devil:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby trigger22 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:18 pm

I like this a lot. I had heard it was going back up to 3, but 4 is even better. Other than scoters, blackheads make up 90 percent of my bag. Sure does make setting out 150-200 blocks a lot more rewarding. Yeah it isn't all about the kill, but it sure is nice when it happens :yes:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter 2 » Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:41 pm

ncbufflehead wrote:
Dingbatter 2 wrote:Come the day after deer season every Junior DC will paint their Hot Buy mallards black and white and skybust the entire coast south of Dare County :lol3:

fixed it for you :devil:



I guess I'll have to hunt north of Dare this year. :hammer:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Paul26 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:54 am

2-4 ft seas with 15 knots this weekend. No Spanish this Saturday. I am dedicating Sat AM to rigging 2 new ll's. My motivation will be the thought of a 4 bird limit.
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby fowlhntr » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:41 am

Tickled to hear this!!!! :beer: Nothing like the sound of a large group of blackheads over the decoys and the "rain" that can follow :yes:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby KAhunter » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:04 am

Not a big diver hunter but we do get into them every now and then. We killed a total of 2 last year so the limits didnt matter but on a normal year it would be nice to have a limit of 3 or 4 every now and then if the population is stable. Could this be another rumor among many that we have heard??
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby ncbufflehead » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:28 am

KAhunter wrote:Could this be another rumor among many that we have heard??

if it is, it's spread from one coast to the other and every state in between.
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter 2 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:29 am

I have six dozen Herters on standby with a few more in reserve. Let the battle begin. :grooving:
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:53 pm

Dingbatter 2 wrote:I have six dozen Herters on standby with a few more in reserve. Let the battle begin. :grooving:


Not to mention my 4 dozen herters, many have new burlap and fresh paint
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Dingbatter 2 » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:41 pm

This is hilarious! Just because the "squiggly line" guys raise the limit, is it really gonna matter.
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Paul26 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:07 pm

Maryland limit is 4 scaup per day.

Any word out yet for here?

I guess at least 3 is a certainty.

Man, it would be sweet for those of us on the coast if we had a decent cold season plus a 4 bbill limit
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby ncbufflehead » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:13 pm

Paul26 wrote:Any word out yet for here?


i think they are accepting public comment on the season/bag limits until august 20, not sure when they will vote on it.
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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby tsmart » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:44 pm

VA opted to allow 4 per day.
Hopefully NC will too.

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Re: Good possibility of 4 blackheads this season

Postby Splashin' Divers » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:01 am

We can only hope! 4 bluebill limit with some cold weather could make for a great year! Yes I think it will bring duck hunting on the river back to the way it used to be... More people hunting to keep the birds moving! Get your blinds built early cause everyone will be trying to take your spot this year! Of coarse our 500 yard rule helps us with that! haha!
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