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Scissors Rigs

Postby black_duck » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:42 pm

What do y'all think about these rigs? Personally I despise them. They are way to effective and ruin an area that birds are using.
In the area that I hunt I believe that these are the number one cause to our decrease in numbers killed over the last 4 or 5 years since they have been introduced. The area I hunt used to have large numbers of ducks that would loaf around offshore all day, rest, and not get harassed. Since these rigs have shown up those flocks of ducks are gone and the sound is slowly becoming a desert of ducks with no where for them to escape the pressure except refugees and private impoundments. Guides in our area hunt the exact same spots every day of the season and run off every duck that starts to use the area.
I believe that these should be outlawed just like the sink box. Just my little rant for the day.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby trigger22 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:03 pm

Since they have showed up? Are you kidding? They've been around a lot longer than you have. You're either kidding or know nothing about the history of waterfowl hunting.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby black_duck » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:46 pm

In my area. Yes I know they've been around currituck for a long while but they have just shown up in my spots over the last five years.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby ncbufflehead » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:24 pm

black_duck wrote:In my area. Yes I know they've been around currituck for a long while but they have just shown up in my spots over the last five years.
Well, it didn't take long to find the real problem.

Unless you are in an area with blind laws, "you" don't have any spots and regardless of where your at, the ducks aren't "yours".



BTW, I think they should do away with the ban on sink boxes.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby HydeMarsh » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:34 pm

Is it the scissor rig or the constant hunting pressure they allow that is disrupting your area?
What general area is this situation occurring? (not looking for a spot but rather something general like Juniper Bay ) (To all of the people on this web site that feel like they should act like butts - I know water in Juniper Bay is in the Swanquater Refuge and is off limts to hunting so please don't share with me that I am an idiot)
If they were outlawed, could not the same guides do a better job of brushing their boats and apply the same pressure?
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby trigger22 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:45 pm

ncbufflehead wrote:
black_duck wrote:In my area. Yes I know they've been around currituck for a long while but they have just shown up in my spots over the last five years.



BTW, I think they should do away with the ban on sink boxes.


I agree 100 percent. They should also do away with the baiting laws but I guess that's another topic for discussion ;)
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby ducking&diving » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:06 am

Ive seen guys in scissor rigs hunt the same area as pop up blinds on the same day and really the success was very similar. While i have respect for the scissor rig i think a well brushed boat blind can be just as effective and quite possibly easier to maintain. you probably think layout boats should be outlawed too? and shotguns that hold more than one shell?
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby black_duck » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:16 am

HydeMarsh wrote:Is it the scissor rig or the constant hunting pressure they allow that is disrupting your area?
What general area is this situation occurring? (not looking for a spot but rather something general like Juniper Bay ) (To all of the people on this web site that feel like they should act like butts - I know water in Juniper Bay is in the Swanquater Refuge and is off limts to hunting so please don't share with me that I am an idiot)
If they were outlawed, could not the same guides do a better job of brushing their boats and apply the same pressure?


Both the constant pressure and the rig. The boats sit in the areas that the ducks used to use as rest areas and the birds are now no longer using the area at all. The blinds are set up 600 yards out in the water where a normal boat blind wouldn't work. This spot is around Hyde County
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby black_duck » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:23 am

ducking&diving wrote:Ive seen guys in scissor rigs hunt the same area as pop up blinds on the same day and really the success was very similar. While i have respect for the scissor rig i think a well brushed boat blind can be just as effective and quite possibly easier to maintain. you probably think layout boats should be outlawed too? and shotguns that hold more than one shell?


I agree that in the right area that they could be equally efective. But the boat blinds are usually right up next to the shore where as the scissors rigs are set out in the middle of the area previoulsly unhuntable by other types of blinds, and that was why there was ducks there. I do not believe that there is anything wrong with layout boats because these are primarily used for shooting diver ducks as marsh ducks usually will bust you in a layout boat. THese spots i am talking about used to be all marsh ducks.

I do think that shotguns with more than one shell should be outlawed too. To easy, use a slingshot IMO more sporty
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby trigger22 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:23 am

black_duck wrote:
HydeMarsh wrote:Is it the scissor rig or the constant hunting pressure they allow that is disrupting your area?
What general area is this situation occurring? (not looking for a spot but rather something general like Juniper Bay ) (To all of the people on this web site that feel like they should act like butts - I know water in Juniper Bay is in the Swanquater Refuge and is off limts to hunting so please don't share with me that I am an idiot)
If they were outlawed, could not the same guides do a better job of brushing their boats and apply the same pressure?


Both the constant pressure and the rig. The boats sit in the areas that the ducks used to use as rest areas and the birds are now no longer using the area at all. The blinds are set up 600 yards out in the water where a normal boat blind wouldn't work. This spot is around Hyde County


A pop up boat blind works just as well offshore in open water as a traditional scissor rig does and even better than both of them are layout boats. If the birds aren't using the area anymore it's likely because they've found a better or more plentiful food source elsewhere.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby ducking&diving » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:31 am

yep, or really its just a weather issue. if the birds aren't here the birds aren't here.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby TooTall » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:50 am

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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby NCfowl » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:22 pm

Isn't the main idea of duck hunting, scouting and getting to be where the birds want to be ? :huh:
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby KAhunter » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:09 pm

Its not the scissor rigs its just more duck hunters and less places to duck hunt. Everywhere is seeing more people, especially public land and water. It sucks but it is part of duck hunting in North Carolina these days,
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Its always duck season, there is just a long break from february to september.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby black_duck » Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:59 pm

NCfowl wrote:Isn't the main idea of duck hunting, scouting and getting to be where the birds want to be ? :huh:


It is. Im just gripping because all of my spots have been over run and nobody has any respect for other hunters or the birds.
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby NCfowl » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:03 pm

If you don't have private land in the next ten years to hunt......We may consider selling everything duck wise. :no:
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Re: Scissors Rigs

Postby HydeMarsh » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:41 pm

Pamlico and Albemarle Sounds are big places and there should be enough room for us. We just cannot allow duck hunters to be shut out of big pieces of Pamlico. no matter what anyone says the water should be public. However, I do agree that owning your own place does allow you to have something that you can control . It is not getting any cheaper so try to buy what you can.
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