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Tools to break ice?

Postby Duck Whisperer » Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:42 pm

Just wondering what y'all may use to make a hole? And I'm NOT refering to spots where you can drive the truck or ATV up to and put out an ice eater or UDM's good burn barrel methodl. I'm thinking about spots where one has to walk in from a distance where you can't carry heavy stuff to do so, and/or where you walk in and have to break a hole right now to hunt.

Normally, on hunts where I don't take the canoe but walk in somewhere, I take a canoe paddle. It works to both break ice as well as push the sheets under other ice. This is IF the ice isn't too thick...1/2 or 3/4 inch stuff. What tools do you use on thicker stuff? Specifically, how well would some type of hand saw work (pretty light, chainsaw too heavy)? Thinking of testing this type(s) of hand saw out tomorrow on my very iced over Koi pond.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby waterfowlist » Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:56 pm

To break ice in a spot where I can't get back there with an ice eater. I carry one of these ice saws and try to cut it in big chunks and then push them under the ice I do not break also I bring a net to scoop out the little chunks. Or I bring just the typical sledge hammer. I like the saw cause it keeps it in big chunks.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby okduckdude » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:10 pm

I will use shins and knees. My brute strength. Also I use a sled alot to carry my decoys and other gear in and I will walk behind it leaning on it to break the ice and it seems to work well. Slow going when you have to walk a ways to get to your spot....
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby LiquidA45 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:34 pm

okduckdude wrote:I will use shins and knees. My brute strength. Also I use a sled alot to carry my decoys and other gear in and I will walk behind it leaning on it to break the ice and it seems to work well. Slow going when you have to walk a ways to get to your spot....



Same here. Use my decoy gloves to toss the large sheets away. As for the smaller pieces I stand in the hole and thrust back and forth creating wakes that push them on to the surrounding ice.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby sooner737 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:40 pm

Duck Whisperer wrote:Just wondering what y'all may use to make a hole? And I'm NOT refering to spots where you can drive the truck or ATV up to and put out an ice eater or UDM's good burn barrel methodl. I'm thinking about spots where one has to walk in from a distance where you can't carry heavy stuff to do so, and/or where you walk in and have to break a hole right now to hunt.

Normally, on hunts where I don't take the canoe but walk in somewhere, I take a canoe paddle. It works to both break ice as well as push the sheets under other ice. This is IF the ice isn't too thick...1/2 or 3/4 inch stuff. What tools do you use on thicker stuff? Specifically, how well would some type of hand saw work (pretty light, chainsaw too heavy)? Thinking of testing this type(s) of hand saw out tomorrow on my very iced over Koi pond.

Reciprocating saw? Bust one little hole then carve whatever you want. I suggest cast iron blades but metal blades work as well
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby okbucksnducks » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:51 pm

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Or this if thick and can do ahead of time
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby shoveler_shooter » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:17 pm

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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby Duck Whisperer » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:03 pm

LiquidA45 wrote:
okduckdude wrote:I will use shins and knees. My brute strength. Also I use a sled alot to carry my decoys and other gear in and I will walk behind it leaning on it to break the ice and it seems to work well. Slow going when you have to walk a ways to get to your spot....



Same here. Use my decoy gloves to toss the large sheets away. As for the smaller pieces I stand in the hole and thrust back and forth creating wakes that push them on to the surrounding ice.


My canoe does wonders doing as described above, IF....big IF I use the canoe to get to a spot and then break ice. I'm talking walk to spots where I don't have "Ole faithful".
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby Duck Whisperer » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:05 pm

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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby micneador » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:11 pm

Or this if thick and can do ahead of time



Do you know how heavy a quickie saw really is? I hate carrying it across the job site much less pack it into the marsh.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby Nerdwick » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:22 pm

I take a long handled square shovel that I keep in the back the truck incase I get stuck or need to bury a dead hooker.

It works out perfectly for me, I tie up around a dozen decoys texas Rogers and just put then on the end of the shovel like a hobo. They are easier to swing around and when I get to the hole I can bust ice and it gives me length so I don't have to reach to out to far and it's great for feeling bottom and keeping balance.

Also makes a great push pole or paddle in the kayak/layout boat.

And they weigh about 3-4 lbs which is manageable.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby okbucksnducks » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:30 am

micneador wrote:
Or this if thick and can do ahead of time



Do you know how heavy a quickie saw really is? I hate carrying it across the job site much less pack it into the marsh.


I do. I've used them for years. We have several of them. I've hauled them around plenty of times on job sites and such. Most spots I hunt I can drive up to so it doesn't matter on weight. Or if I were to use a boat, a sled, or a canoe like has been said, it's not really an issue.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby Jerkstring » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:57 am

2-3" willow about 6' long cut at the water with the small machete I always carry. Then leave it for the next trip. Already carrying too much crap when walking in.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby sooner737 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:45 am

okbucksnducks wrote:
micneador wrote:
Or this if thick and can do ahead of time



Do you know how heavy a quickie saw really is? I hate carrying it across the job site much less pack it into the marsh.


I do. I've used them for years. We have several of them. I've hauled them around plenty of times on job sites and such. Most spots I hunt I can drive up to so it doesn't matter on weight. Or if I were to use a boat, a sled, or a canoe like has been said, it's not really an issue.

You guys need to hire an apprentice
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby okbucksnducks » Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:59 am

sooner737 wrote:
okbucksnducks wrote:
micneador wrote:
Or this if thick and can do ahead of time



Do you know how heavy a quickie saw really is? I hate carrying it across the job site much less pack it into the marsh.


I do. I've used them for years. We have several of them. I've hauled them around plenty of times on job sites and such. Most spots I hunt I can drive up to so it doesn't matter on weight. Or if I were to use a boat, a sled, or a canoe like has been said, it's not really an issue.

You guys need to hire an apprentice


I was the grunt when I did that work.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby okduckdude » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:53 am

sooner737 wrote:
okbucksnducks wrote:
micneador wrote:
Or this if thick and can do ahead of time



Do you know how heavy a quickie saw really is? I hate carrying it across the job site much less pack it into the marsh.


I do. I've used them for years. We have several of them. I've hauled them around plenty of times on job sites and such. Most spots I hunt I can drive up to so it doesn't matter on weight. Or if I were to use a boat, a sled, or a canoe like has been said, it's not really an issue.

You guys need to hire an apprentice



I was thinking this the other day lol
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby jeff_osu » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:37 pm

I use a stout oar in the manner described above: break and push under the ice. Some mornings it seems like it refreezes in a matter of 30 minutes though. Breaking it is easy, but keeping it open gets in the way of hunting. I suppose motorized decoys might move the water enough to delay freezing, but I have never tried that.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby LiquidA45 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:44 pm

jeff_osu wrote:I use a stout oar in the manner described above: break and push under the ice. Some mornings it seems like it refreezes in a matter of 30 minutes though. Breaking it is easy, but keeping it open gets in the way of hunting. I suppose motorized decoys might move the water enough to delay freezing, but I have never tried that.



A couple decoys on a jerk rig will keep it open. I swear when birds are flying by I just tug that jerk rig and they see the ripples in the open water and suicide dive my spread.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby Ely » Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:32 pm

After I break it and use a dip net to scoop all the ice out I put a trolling motor in the hole and turned it on low to keep the hole open. works every time


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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby MAJ MALFUNCTION » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:53 am

Ely wrote:After I break it and use a dip net to scoop all the ice out I put a trolling motor in the hole and turned it on low to keep the hole open. works every time


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I do the same thing (sort of). Mojo outdoors has a product called the "thrasher" that is basically a trolling motor clamped to a stake and runs off of a deep cycle boat battery. Keeps the ice hole open and adds some movement to your spread.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby red_duck » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:14 pm

Worth the effort, ducks cruise around looking for open water? Good pair of neoprene waders, decoy gloves is all you need for ice up to inch thick. Depending on depth, push down with your weight to break. Suggest squares of 20feet, slide pieces under ice NOT in your hole. I bought a bait net at Academy (4x10) that two people can skim all the little pieces with, works good.
If ice thick I use a wood splitting maul (8lbs) to chop and break it.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby razorback » Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:32 pm

It absolutely won't work if you can't get relatively close, but I have started using a trash pump. Set it up, start it and walk away. Fill the tank every 8 hours. I have kept a hole open all year.

As far as walk in spots, usually start with a hatchet and use a jet sled and body weight to do the majority of it.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby micneador » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:43 pm

but I have started using a trash pump. 


Great minds think alike, been using my 3" when needed.
Do you have an external tank? Mine will only run for 2 hrs full bore.
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Re: Tools to break ice?

Postby razorback » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:54 pm

micneador wrote:
but I have started using a trash pump. 


Great minds think alike, been using my 3" when needed.
Do you have an external tank? Mine will only run for 2 hrs full bore.


Yes, I fabbed a new tank. Just gravity fed into the original tank.
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