14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

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14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby shoveler_shooter » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:49 pm

• On all wildlife management areas, the
discharge of firearms for purposes
other than hunting is restricted to the
specific target or shooting ranges
provided for public use.

Looks like target shooting is now illegal on all WMAs now. So I guess if you want to ethically kill your quarry or introduce someone to shooting, you have to practice on private land or pay a ridiculous amount to get a membership at a range. Which means if you don't know someone with enough land and only shoot a few times a year (which doesn't justify getting a membership), you are out of luck.
It specifically says "wildlife management areas" though, not PHAs....not sure if that was a misprint and they meant all state areas.

Either way, great job ODWC. This will result in more crippled game and make it a lot more difficult to find a place to teach someone how to shoot.

I have a feeling someone is going to try to argue and maybe say that it already was illegal, but if you carefully read it in previous years it said "on WMAs where shooting range is provided, discharge of firearms for non hunting purposes is limited to the range provided".
I will acknowledge that people leaving their trash behind was an issue (the main point of reasoning I can see for changing this rule), however is it not an issue on WDUs with duck "hunters" as it already is, not to mention all the other ways littering/dumping occurs on public land?
The negatives outweigh the positives on this regulation change.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby Specklebelly » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:34 pm

Something is always in season. Sorry Mr Green Jeans, I was just shooting at x, y or z.

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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby shoveler_shooter » Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:48 pm

Specklebelly wrote:Something is always in season. Sorry Mr Green Jeans, I was just shooting at x, y or z.

That is my plan.

Good point, but with the type of career I'm going into, I can't afford to take any risks when it comes to wildlife violations or any kind of violation period if I plan on getting hired lol.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby LTMFH » Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:56 am

My local WMA has a Shooting range.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby shoveler_shooter » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:08 am

LTMFH wrote:My local WMA has a Shooting range.

The closest one from me is about 45 miles away and a couple years ago someone was shot and all their guns stolen. And I've read on other forums where shady people will watch you and wait until all your guns are unloaded to try to make a move.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby Specklebelly » Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:39 am

shoveler_shooter wrote:
LTMFH wrote:My local WMA has a Shooting range.

The closest one from me is about 45 miles away and a couple years ago someone was shot and all their guns stolen. And I've read on other forums where shady people will watch you and wait until all your guns are unloaded to try to make a move.
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Wow, that is crazy. I have gotten that feeling deep in Lexington before. A lot if freaky people hang out there for some reason.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby LTMFH » Thu Aug 14, 2014 11:22 am

Good point. Notes to self, Always keep gun loaded. Never shoot all the ammo.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby okbucksnducks » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:48 pm

LTMFH wrote:Good point. Notes to self, Always keep gun loaded. Never shoot all the ammo.

Exactly. You never know when the last one will pop out.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby fishfurlife » Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:51 pm

I have been on the tail end of somebody "target practicing" more times than I can count on a WMA. I fully support this rule change. More than once I have crested a hill to people sighting their rifles straight down the side of a WMA road. I would have a different take on this if I actually encountered people using their brains on a WMA more than not concerning this issue.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby shoveler_shooter » Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:34 am

fishfurlife wrote:I have been on the tail end of somebody "target practicing" more times than I can count on a WMA. I fully support this rule change. More than once I have crested a hill to people sighting their rifles straight down the side of a WMA road. I would have a different take on this if I actually encountered people using their brains on a WMA more than not concerning this issue.

What are people supposed to do that don't have private access? I'm not paying $200 for a membership at a shooting range to shoot maybe 6 times a year.
And in your case, sounds like a Hunter Education issue; that is a firearm safety rule that was gone over at the hunter ed course they took. If they chose to ignore it while target shooting, they are going to ignore it when not target shooting. Banning target shooting for everyone isn't going to fix the problem.
Also they could at least allow shotguns with pellets only for target shooting, like they do for hunting in restricted/close proximity areas.
It would also help if they would actually create more shooting ranges within reasonable driving distance of where most people in OK live.....but, that encourages more crime, as I was explaining about the Wagoner one.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby fishfurlife » Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:09 am

Every range I know of will allow you to shoot and charge a daily rate. We have a county range that is free. Open a few days a week. Was once a tax payer funded police only range. It's since been changed to a public range.

In the sense of safety and what people are and are not taught, it's the persons fault for not applying what they were supposed to have learned.


Like I said, the first time you are on the down range side of a high powered rifle being discharged on public land by a couple of morons not using their head is all that it will take to change your mind about target shooting away from a shooting range.

I understand your sentiment but will never change my stance based on safety alone.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby LiquidA45 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:36 am

There is plenty of Corp land to shoot on.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby shoveler_shooter » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:30 pm

LiquidA45 wrote:There is plenty of Corp land to shoot on.

Which is also illegal lol
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby Specklebelly » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:56 am

We have a range just west of me by Banner. It was a dump until the tornado wiped it out. Now it is rebuilt and it better shape.

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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby rebelmdb69 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:21 am

Henry's guns in yukon just put in a range as well just west of yukon a mile or two. On north side of road
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby Gruberguy » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:36 pm

Sorry.... I support this rule as well. Working where I do, I find targets nailed to trees along the roads ALL THE TIME!! Yes, hunter ed should kick in here.... But sadly most of the time it doesn't....
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby LiquidA45 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:21 pm

You guys keep bringing up hunter ed but it is a joke. You can do it online in 20 minutes.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby Specklebelly » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:08 pm

LiquidA45 wrote:You guys keep bringing up hunter ed but it is a joke. You can do it online in 20 minutes.

I had to sit through a two evening class with my son. The sad news is not all there passed. I told my boy that he better pass after sitting through that long of a class and he did.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby shoveler_shooter » Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:34 pm

LiquidA45 wrote:You guys keep bringing up hunter ed but it is a joke. You can do it online in 20 minutes.

I was trying to say that it is a fundamental problem, not exclusive to target shooting. If there is a lack of safety practiced while target shooting, it is going to carry over to every other activity that involves firearms; therefore the new rule does not get to the root of the problem.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby Skye Bustin' » Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:01 pm

Specklebelly wrote:
LiquidA45 wrote:You guys keep bringing up hunter ed but it is a joke. You can do it online in 20 minutes.

I had to sit through a two evening class with my son. The sad news is not all there passed. I told my boy that he better pass after sitting through that long of a class and he did.


That's the way it was for me in '96. Sad how some people can't use common sense when handling firearms.

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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby Gruberguy » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:11 pm

Which state allows Hunter Ed in 20 minutes?? OK requires an 8 hour class (used to be 10), and their online takes 12-16 hours to complete....

But you are right... Most people don't take hunter ed seriously. My house gets peppered by duck hunters every year, especially if there's a north wind! And if someone is hunting, I don't DARE walk into my livestock pasture (The animals are on their own!!!)
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby LiquidA45 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:43 pm

Gruberguy wrote:Which state allows Hunter Ed in 20 minutes?? OK requires an 8 hour class (used to be 10), and their online takes 12-16 hours to complete....

But you are right... Most people don't take hunter ed seriously. My house gets peppered by duck hunters every year, especially if there's a north wind! And if someone is hunting, I don't DARE walk into my livestock pasture (The animals are on their own!!!)



More like 12-16 minutes. Got a friend into hunting last year and he did it in 18 minutes. Only took that long because he read spent extra time on the turkey section. Another friend did it the year before in about 30 minutes as well.
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Re: 14-15 Hunting Regulations changes

Postby LiquidA45 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:01 pm

There's 13 chapters and I just did the first 4 in less than 10 minutes. Obviously I skipped through every video and didn't read anything, only answered the questions. But the point is that it can be done without learning anything and someone can do it for you.
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