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shells and loads

Postby gunner1973 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:15 am

just curious to hear what everbody prefers to shoot for ducks and geese , i myself shoot faststeel 3 1/2'' #3 for everything out of an sx 3 with the patternmaster
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Pepper1 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:47 am

hmmm, several years ago I stocked up and still using a smorgasbord of shells

12 gauge;
I use Faststeel 3' #3's and 2's , what i take the most of
Fasteeel 3 1/2" 3's and BB's and some 2's also
Rem 3 1/2" 2's
Fiochhi steel 2 3/4" 3's and 2's , these are good, I have no problems with them
Some blue box Federal 2 3/4 " 4's trying these more this year, so far good
Federal blue box 2 3/4" 6's tree hunting on the river
Rem black 2 3/4" 2s and 4's
Rem green 2 3/4 4's
several boxes of 3" Hevi-shot 4's and 6's $$$$$ jeeeeez
some hevi-metal 3" 2's
a couple boxes of Impact 3" 4's I like these, I use sparingly, God awful expensive
Black Cloud 3 1/2" BB. have never used these, got a box as a gift last year

20 ga ;
Impact 3" 5's
Impact 3" 3's
federal blue box 2 3/4" 4's

16 ga;
Winchester red 4's and 6's but those are lead, just use the ol 12 for upland anyway
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Re: shells and loads

Postby baltz526 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 6:00 pm

I reload So can make anything I want. 20ga-10ga-12ga. What I use most is 12ga 2 3/4" 1 1/16oz in #1 or B then 1 1/8oz #3. In 12ga 3" I use 1 1/4oz #1. In all reality I could get by fine with 2 factory loads for all waterfowl. 3" 1 1/8oz of steel #2 kent fast steel and the same load except in BB. As much as I like to play with reloaded shells I can not make general hunting shells better than these 2 loads. They just work. The only thing my reloaded shells improves is the amount of cash in my wallet per shell shot.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Pepper1 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:35 pm

baltz526 wrote:I reload So can make anything I want. 20ga-10ga-12ga. What I use most is 12ga 2 3/4" 1 1/16oz in #1 or B then 1 1/8oz #3. In 12ga 3" I use 1 1/4oz #1. In all reality I could get by fine with 2 factory loads for all waterfowl. 3" 1 1/8oz of steel #2 kent fast steel and the same load except in BB. As much as I like to play with reloaded shells I can not make general hunting shells better than these 2 loads. They just work. The only thing my reloaded shells improves is the amount of cash in my wallet per shell shot.


:hi: one of these days I would like to pick your brain on reloading. I have most or all of the equipment, the press and such but have not touched it all since the lead days , 30 years or so. obviously things have changed. :fingerhead:
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Huskies12 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:15 pm

Federal blue box 3" 1-1/8 1550FPS #4 for ducks.
Federal Black Cloud 3" 1-1/8 1635FPS "Snow Goose" #2 or #BB for geese.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Jim Atlas » Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:37 am

For factory shells, I buy Kent 3" 1-1/4 oz #3's or #1's. Though I'll pick up Fed or Rems for the right price.
Reloads, I use a 3" load very much like the above Kents. I also load a couple diff 2-3/4" loads with 492 or 480 grains.
I reload some steel #3's and #4's and a little bit of Hevi Shot for the 16 ga.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Honk-n-quack » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:19 am

Every time I buy a box I buy something different and pull 4 shells out of each box. Next year I should be able to do a lot of patterning with that patternmaster I'm going to order and all the extra shells.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby QH's Paw » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:16 am

I'm a believer in the "KISS" system. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
I shoot Kent 3" #1 1 1/8oz 1550fps for everything waterfowl.
I shot nothing but 3 1/2" for a whole season and saw no better results. They may have more shot but, your results do not double with the price of the shell. If you play the birds in tight, 2 3/4" will do it.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Echospartan » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:52 pm

QH's Paw wrote:I'm a believer in the "KISS" system. (Keep It Simple Stupid)
I shoot Kent 3" #1 1 1/8oz 1550fps for everything waterfowl.
I shot nothing but 3 1/2" for a whole season and saw no better results. They may have more shot but, your results do not double with the price of the shell. If you play the birds in tight, 2 3/4" will do it.


I'm with QH. Kent are great, cause they're quality, fairly inexpensive, and they work, 2 3/4" and 3" #2s or #3s going 1550 fps works for me.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby baltz526 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:25 pm

Pepper1 wrote:
baltz526 wrote:I reload So can make anything I want. 20ga-10ga-12ga. What I use most is 12ga 2 3/4" 1 1/16oz in #1 or B then 1 1/8oz #3. In 12ga 3" I use 1 1/4oz #1. In all reality I could get by fine with 2 factory loads for all waterfowl. 3" 1 1/8oz of steel #2 kent fast steel and the same load except in BB. As much as I like to play with reloaded shells I can not make general hunting shells better than these 2 loads. They just work. The only thing my reloaded shells improves is the amount of cash in my wallet per shell shot.


:hi: one of these days I would like to pick your brain on reloading. I have most or all of the equipment, the press and such but have not touched it all since the lead days , 30 years or so. obviously things have changed. :fingerhead:
Here you go: federal paper base 12ga 2 3/4" topgun hull, fed209a, 32gr Steel powder, LBC43 wad, 1 1/8 of steel #3, 1470fps. Use 114#1 or 90 airgun B .17" sized pellets Which is 1 1/16oz in the same load for 1500fps. Also works in cheddite hulls (kent), Rio hulls, with Rio primers, 1500fps. load pressure should be under 12,000PSI. But as everything is a crapshoot, use at own risk. Count your pellets using CCI rifle primer try's, drop the powder charge with your powder measure. 100lb of wad pressure is key to consistent loads. Its a Hobby. The other load I use is Remington 3", fed209a, 32gr steel powder, MM1275, 130 #1 steel, which is 1 1/4oz, 1400fps. Both loads come out of an older Ballistic products data book. Status of steel 12th edition. My 12ga press is an old MEC 600JR And I have a MEC super sizer 77. Press is used to deprime, then use the super sizer, then use press to prime, drop powder from measure, seat wad by hand, then use press for 100lb wad pressure, pre crimp, then crimp on press. Not a fast process but about 30 shells per hour is possible. With currant pricing 12ga 2 3/4"-3" loads are about $7 per 25. Savings start when I load my 10ga shells. About $10.50 per 25, But performance is "MUCH" better than most $33 factory loads. Its a hobby.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Webfootslayer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:30 am

Kents all day long good velocity and hardly ever a dud also seem to pattern the best out of most guns. Why pay more for something that doesnt do the job.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby gunner1973 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:38 am

Webfootslayer wrote:Kents all day long good velocity and hardly ever a dud also seem to pattern the best out of most guns. Why pay more for something that doesnt do the job.


im with ya on that one ,they seem to do great for me ,and not to bad on the wallet!! i tried using the remingtons ,but they wouldnt pattern worth a darn and i kept getting powder in my eyes
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Re: shells and loads

Postby duckstoppa » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:38 pm

This topic is about beat to death on hunting forums.
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Re: shells and loads

Postby OregonSpeck85 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:36 pm

Estate 3 in 1/4 2 shot for ducks and 3 1/2 4 shot for geese
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Re: shells and loads

Postby Honk-n-quack » Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:02 pm

4s for geese?
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Re: shells and loads

Postby baltz526 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:57 pm

baltz526 wrote:
Pepper1 wrote:
baltz526 wrote:I reload So can make anything I want. 20ga-10ga-12ga. What I use most is 12ga 2 3/4" 1 1/16oz in #1 or B then 1 1/8oz #3. In 12ga 3" I use 1 1/4oz #1. In all reality I could get by fine with 2 factory loads for all waterfowl. 3" 1 1/8oz of steel #2 kent fast steel and the same load except in BB. As much as I like to play with reloaded shells I can not make general hunting shells better than these 2 loads. They just work. The only thing my reloaded shells improves is the amount of cash in my wallet per shell shot.


:hi: one of these days I would like to pick your brain on reloading. I have most or all of the equipment, the press and such but have not touched it all since the lead days , 30 years or so. obviously things have changed. :fingerhead:
Here you go: federal paper base 12ga 2 3/4" topgun hull, fed209a, 32gr Steel powder, LBC43 wad, 1 1/8 of steel #3, 1470fps. Use 114#1 or 90 airgun B .17" sized pellets Which is 1 1/16oz in the same load for 1500fps. Also works in cheddite hulls (kent), Rio hulls, with Rio primers, 1500fps. load pressure should be under 12,000PSI. But as everything is a crapshoot, use at own risk. Count your pellets using CCI rifle primer try's, drop the powder charge with your powder measure. 100lb of wad pressure is key to consistent loads. Its a Hobby. The other load I use is Remington 3", fed209a, 32gr steel powder, MM1275, 130 #1 steel, which is 1 1/4oz, 1400fps. Both loads come out of an older Ballistic products data book. Status of steel 12th edition. My 12ga press is an old MEC 600JR And I have a MEC super sizer 77. Press is used to deprime, then use the super sizer, then use press to prime, drop powder from measure, seat wad by hand, then use press for 100lb wad pressure, pre crimp, then crimp on press. Not a fast process but about 30 shells per hour is possible. With currant pricing 12ga 2 3/4"-3" loads are about $7 per 25. Savings start when I load my 10ga shells. About $10.50 per 25, But performance is "MUCH" better than most $33 factory loads. Its a hobby.
Just a little update. In a federal topgun hull I'm now loading 88 B, It fits better, 114 #1
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