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Geese

Postby LBeinhaur » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:28 am

Anyone watch CH 3 this morning? NY wants to cut there canada goose population by 1/3 by culling the flock ( what ever that means, shooting, poisoning?????) This is ridiculous???? They brought up the USAirways flt that went into the Hudson.
Why don't they just control the geese around the airports instead of killing off 2/3 of the flock!!!!!!!!!!!!
I worked for USAirways for 33 years and have been around the industy for 36, 1st time I ever heard of this type of an incident, although I'm sure it has happened before.
Maybe they allow a more liberal season and a higher bag limit !!!

Kinda like the lady a few years ago in Vermont that got hit by a turkey while she was riding her motorcycle, she wanted get rid of all the turkeys.

GEEEZZ!!
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Re: Geese

Postby Champney » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:27 pm

read this of a goose hunting forum in NY:

It seems that things have taken a turn for the stranger in the waterfowl world. Last week we blogged about how a group of animal lovers hosted a funeral for 109 nuisance geese that were exterminated from an Oregon park. Now 400 geese from a park in Brooklyn were rounded up and killed with carbon dioxide. It’s one of the largest geese killings in the city’s recent history.

The geese were molting and unable to fly when wildlife biologists with the federal Agriculture Department gathered them up in crates and then gassed them in a nearby building. The killing was done to eliminate geese near the major airports in New York after a flock of geese caused a plane to crash land into the Hudson River last year.


“The thing to always remember in this New York situation is that we are talking about aviation and passenger and property safety,” Carol Bannerman told the New York Times. “In New York City, from 1981 to 1999, the [goose] population increase was sevenfold.”Geese were more or less extinct from New York in the early 1900s and birds were shipped in to rebuild the population. But oddly enough, New York City does not have a relocation system for nuisance geese. In other words, geese check in but they don’t check out of the Big Apple. Also, the geese were thought to be fulltime residents of the park, living on breadcrumbs and enjoying the easy city life. Because of this, there was really no chance for hunters to pick them off as they migrated later in the year.

Perhaps the saddest part of the story is that the carcasses of the 400 geese were double bagged and dumped into a landfill. According to the New York Times, the Agriculture department regularly donates goose meat and 900 pounds of goose breast was given to food pantries in Pennsylvania this year. It’s unclear why these 400 geese were dumped instead of donated.


apparently they been killing of geese in new jersey like this for years and started doing this in ny a few years ago.
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Re: Geese

Postby pete/pmr » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:05 pm

Read this,I recieved it from Bill Crenshaw after he recieved it from the DEC in Ny!

To Whom It May Concern,
A story about Canada geese that was published in the New York Times on July 23rd (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/24/nyregion/24geese.html) gave readers a completely incorrect impression about a long-standing goal to reduce the number of local nesting or “resident” Canada geese in New York State with a more recent and specific plan to capture and remove geese residing near JFK and LaGuardia airports.
First, let me make it very clear: contrary to the impression that some New York Times readers have come away with, there are absolutely no plans by DEC or others to capture, euthanize and bury 170,000 resident geese to achieve the statewide population goal of 85,000 birds. Here are the facts:
In 1999, the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) helped develop a management plan for resident Canada geese in the Atlantic Flyway (basically the East Coast of the U.S. and Canada). At that time, DEC estimated the number of resident geese in New York to be approximately 137,000 birds. Based on the growing frequency and severity of complaints about geese, DEC biologists concluded that a more acceptable number of resident geese in New York was at or below 85,000 birds. Our management efforts since 1999 have largely been to encourage or implement programs or policies to help achieve that population level.
In 2005, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service completed a Final Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) on Resident Canada Goose Management. Population objectives, as identified by flyway management plans, were incorporated into the Final EIS to help define its objectives for acceptable population reduction and management. The population estimate and objective for New York in that document were 161,000 and 85,000 geese, respectively.
In spring 2009, following the US Airways Flight 1549 incident, DEC cooperated with federal and local officials to develop an action plan to reduce the number of resident Canada geese that posed a hazard to aviation safety in the New York metropolitan area. U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) Wildlife Services program accepted lead responsibility for developing and implementing a specific work plan to reduce the number of geese around JFK and LaGuardia airports. That work plan was designed to be more aggressive, and more effective, than the variety of non-lethal measures that had been used at both airports for many years.
It is the USDA work plan, not the flyway management plan, which describes the goose removal program that occurred in New York City in 2009 and 2010. The USDA work plan cited the Atlantic Flyway plan, and the population goal for New York, as part of their determination that the actions called for were consistent with current management goals and policies of DEC and other wildlife agencies. To reiterate, there are absolutely no plans by DEC or others to capture, euthanize and bury 170,000 resident geese to achieve the statewide population goal of 85,000 birds.
2013 Season Totals

Canada Geese 105
Mallards 43
Woodies 31
Teal 16
widgeon 8
Blacks 11
Goldeneyes 25 "Take-em"
Buffleheads 4
Bluebills 1
snows 27
Band Count 5
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