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Move to Vermont?

Postby Dr.Goatstrips » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:41 pm

Good Evening All!

I currently live in North Carolina where my wife and I are stationed in the Marine Corps.

We are set to be done with our military obligation in a little over a year. I'm originally from Florida and she is from the Plattsburgh, NY area, however I WILL NEVER LIVE IN NY due to the outrageous gun laws, etc. Can you give me some pros/cons for living in Vermont, I'd like to perhaps stay around the Chittenden, Lamoille, or Franklin County area. Hunting, Housing, Job Market....anything would help.

Thanks in advance for your help Gents!!!
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby brokermike » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:12 am

Dr.Goatstrips wrote:Good Evening All!

I currently live in North Carolina where my wife and I are stationed in the Marine Corps.

We are set to be done with our military obligation in a little over a year. I'm originally from Florida and she is from the Plattsburgh, NY area, however I WILL NEVER LIVE IN NY due to the outrageous gun laws, etc. Can you give me some pros/cons for living in Vermont, I'd like to perhaps stay around the Chittenden, Lamoille, or Franklin County area. Hunting, Housing, Job Market....anything would help.

Thanks in advance for your help Gents!!!



You won't like Chittenden County, it's like a little liberal paradise up there. The VAST majority of the population is against everything. They'll drive their prius to the fair-trade-organic-employee-owned-community market to buy some grass fed heritage breed humanely raised locally grown pork, but then they'll post their land and decry how inhumane hunters are. F that stuff. I've been and advocate of trading NY Chittenden County for their Washington County.

Addison and Franklin County aren't too bad.

In general we are the land of high taxes and imported ideals of what country life should be like. Buy either a small house on no land or buy something with more than 28 acres and tac advantage of land use. DO NOT buy anything with more than 2 "building lots" worth of land (this will change with zoning, def. check it out). VT property taxes are based on highest and best use. So even if you don't do anything with the extra land you will pay taxes based on it being a building lot. Vermont's land use program is complicated but advantageous if done right.

Good luck!
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby VTfowl » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:34 pm

Hunting will be a lot different from south carolina also. By december temperatures drop and its not surprising if its below zero. Better buy some new warm gear, and make sure you have reliable guns, decoys, ect. to withstand the abuse of the cold. Vermonts waterfowl most likely wont match the success your used to as well. Finding a job in the trades can be pretty easy, but there arn't many businesses here to get jobs with compared to the carolinas, Virginia, and Maryland. Basically in Vermont most people are either hippie crunchy people who dont like guns, eat all natural, and are about making the world "green" or are outdoorsy and enjoy what Vermont has to offer.
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby RangerX » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:22 am

VTfowl wrote: Vermonts waterfowl most likely wont match the success your used to as well.


VtFowl, are you serious? LOL

To the OP. The duck hunting here is good, much different than what you are used to at the end of the Atlantic Flyway, but by no means can you not reach the same success. Furthermore, the quality of ducks (for eating) here you will find much better than the salty ass seaducks you guys get down there.
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby RedPup » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:56 pm

I was always under the impression that Vermont was home to an independent type that leaned more Libertarian. Not so?

I know a lot of hippies moved there in the 60's, but I didn't think the whole State went liberal.

I always thought it was strange that liberals move to rural places like Vermont, Maine and even Alaska to escape the sprawl and madness of city life for a quieter, simple existence. Once they get there, their liberal, left-wing views come out and they start asking "where are the sidewalks?", "Why don't we have paved jogging trails?", "Why don't we have better schools and programs for my oh so special child?", "What's with all of these woodstoves? Don't they realize all the pollutants you are releasing into my air?" "Why do we have Barney Fyfe? Why don't we have a modern, professional Police Department?" "Why can't you just let the deer live?" "Why no Super Wal-Mart?"

And so it goes.......
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby Dr.Goatstrips » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:13 am

I appreciate all of the input.

I'm sure the hunting will differ, but thats ok with me.

The job market worries me, I'd like to be involved in the management side of large scale farming, which seems like it may be difficult to find in that area. Any thoughts?

I'd definitely like to steer clear of the hippies and liberals....it doesnt sit well knowing that you have Bernie Sanders, the Socialist Senator. But I do like that you can concealed carry without a permit.
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby brokermike » Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:17 am

Lots of Big farms in addison county and phenomenal hunting! Might start there.
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby Dr.Goatstrips » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:50 pm

will do....Thanks Mike
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby RangerX » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:37 am

Don't worry so much about the liberals and hippies; mostly in Chittenden County... just stay way from Starbucks and downtown Burlington and you should be OK.
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby hawkman » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:49 pm

Hello Dr.

Most of the guys who have responded are from the Western side of the state. We hunt ducks and geese on the Eastern side (Northeast Kingdom) too We don't have as much big water but we do have the Connecticut River, lots of smaller lakes and beaver ponds. We have some corn fields but not near as much as in the Champlain Valley. Thus, I don't think we have as many birds. We have mallards, black ducks, wood ducks, teal, ringnecks, a few buffle heads and Goldeneyes. We have some Canadas. A guy generally has to do quite a bit of scouting to get consistent shooting. It tends to be colder over here and we generally freeze up before Champlain.

As far as work goes, farms tend to be smaller although there are some large dairy farms around. If your title, "Dr." is also your background, we could really use some dentists and physicians over here. Most of the ones we have are nearing retirement and there is already not enough to go around.

We don't have near the liberal influence as there is in Chittendon. Paved bike paths? Most of our roads aren't even paved.
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby vt.honker » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:39 pm

[quote="hawkman"]Hello Dr.

Most of the guys who have responded are from the Western side of the state. We hunt ducks and geese on the Eastern side (Northeast Kingdom) too We don't have as much big water but we do have the Connecticut River, lots of smaller lakes and beaver ponds. We have some corn fields but not near as much as in the Champlain Valley. Thus, I don't think we have as many birds. We have mallards, black ducks, wood ducks, teal, ringnecks, a few buffle heads and Goldeneyes. We have some Canadas. A guy generally has to do quite a bit of scouting to get consistent shooting. It tends to be colder over here and we generally freeze up before Champlain.

As far as work goes, farms tend to be smaller although there are some large dairy farms around. If your title, "Dr." is also your background, we could really use some dentists and physicians over here. Most of the ones we have are nearing retirement and there is already not enough to go around.

We don't have near the liberal influence as there is in Chittendon. Paved bike paths? Most of our roads aren't even paved.[/quote :hi: TRUTH right there...EVERY WORD ...spotty cell phone and internet service too :hammer: :hammer: :rolleyes:.
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Re: Move to Vermont?

Postby pete/pmr » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:23 am

So what are you looking for besides the firearms laws,you mention farming,managing large scale farming,but there really aren't a lot of large scale farms in Vermont,most are family run,you want to open a consulting business to farming,or work for a large scale farm,because most of those farms are already managed by a family member of the owners,you can certainly find work on a farm,although a lot of those jobs are being taken up by illegals who will work for way less money than you will need to pay your expenses of living here,unless you are willing to live on the farm and not buy your own place? However there are plenty of small farms that are on the verge of foreclosure and or in foreclosure that you could possibly buy and run yourself then grow from there,however they usually lease out their properties to bigger farms in the area to help keep then alive before they actually sell.

Now for hunting,we have some of the better hunting in the region,despite a lot of what people say or think,along with our laws,it is in my opinion one of the best states in New England to live and hunt!



Seasons are very extreme,and weather is beautiful to brutal,but life goes on and people still live here and are surviving,so that says a lot all by itself! Vermont can be what you make of it,but remember,motivation and drive to succeed are basically what will be the deciding factor of how much you enjoy life here in Vermont!

Addison County in my opinion has the best to offer for large scale farming,however it is some of the hardest farming in the state,because of the soil,it is mostly clay,and you have to work hard to all the time because of the abuse the equipment takes,and all the nutrients you need to add,and all the prep you have to do just to get the soil ready to plant,this is farming like you will not see in many other farmlands in the US! Local farmers have learned over the years what works! Most of the other areas within the state,southwestern Vt has good rich soil,and produces a lot of good crops,north western Vermont has good farmland,and in the north eastern part of the state,rugged hilly country with steep side hills that have been cleared to pastures and fields,the bottom lands there are usually flood plains that cannot be planted until mid June and are a short growing season, and the southeastern is the same,lots of nice good fields,with hilly pastures,and rivers cutting through them,but they also have flooding in the Connecticut river valley.

Hope this helps,but remember one thing,if you have the will to do what it takes to make it here,you will,but believe it when I tell you ,it ain't easy! It is discouraging at times,frustrating most of the time,and whatever you do be open to doing more than one job to survive! Because when the weather screws you, you need a back up plan!
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