Cap'm Pooty wrote:There was a push and a good chance that we would get a two week split and an earlier start date to our season this year because of a push by local hunters and statewide hunters.
Cap'm Pooty wrote:I have not personally met anyone that hunts Back Bay that does not want this change, SO who in the *&%# are you talking to?
bowhunter1212 wrote:It ain't over til its over and slacker you don't have a clue.
Cap'm Pooty wrote:I dont give a crap what days in October and November they give us, just that we get 2 weeks gone in December, they are wasted...
Like I said, everyone I talk to around Currituck and Back Bay and a few from the shore want less days in December and more days in November.
Tangier Island Slacker wrote:Cap'm Pooty wrote:There was a push and a good chance that we would get a two week split and an earlier start date to our season this year because of a push by local hunters and statewide hunters.
Nope, it was very heavily dominated by guys from the SE part of the state. Talk to guys who diver hunt just about anywhere or puddler hunt the 75% of the state north and west of Hampton Roads, and they'll tell you that there are too many days in November already. We'll take a few more days in October, but then start at the last legal day in January and count backwards. November sucks for most everyone that's not in your region.Cap'm Pooty wrote:I have not personally met anyone that hunts Back Bay that does not want this change, SO who in the *&%# are you talking to?
Guys that don't live in the SE corner of the state, probably.
The rest of us don't want the change in season dates, and zones aren't an option for a couple more years.
bay gunner wrote:I hunt ducks on the Shore, on the Tidewater rivers from the Northern Neck south, on the Bay proper, and Back Bay. Much of it diver hunting. Much of it also marsh ducks. Geese as well, thanks to the current goose season splits. First two weeks in December are worthless any way you slice it. We need zones. Western VA, can't speak for them.
,skydog wrote:Personally I'm all for the two week december split and longer November season (lining up with NC season) but I have a hard time believing it's not happening for this reason. I've always thought it wouldn't hapeen because the season would then overlap with a week of muzzeloader season, and the powers that be would never go for that.
DUKSLAYA92 wrote:I know folks that hunt out that way, much further west than Harrisonburg and TIS's strip mall seafood store, that have birds in Novemeber. This ain't about migrations or duck numbers.
this! Plus if you think one man can influence the dgif then I influenced bettsy ross to sew the american flagva marsh rat wrote:Duck season cannot be pushed any later. Federal regulations mandate that it ends in late January.
In my opinion, the November birds are a different type of birds than the January birds we get. January birds are usually late migrators that will hang around an area until the weather forces them south. November ( and October) birds are more likely to be migrating due to the shortening of the days. This is a more guaranteed thing then the cold fronts because the daylight on November 9th is always the same every year, regardless of wind, precipitation, or temperature, so I have to believe ducks migrating according to the daylight changes would tend to follow more of a set schedule.
Now we will also get significant weather events in October/November, they just may not seem significant because there's no snow and ice. In other words, a day or two in the low 40's when temperatures have been averaging in the 50's is definitely enough to push down those early birds, even if it may not seem like classic frigid duck weather. I remember checking on my blinds in early November after a nor'easter in 2009 and seeing birds everywhere, about 2-3 weeks before the season was going to come in.
For what it's worth, I'm hunting somewhere between the Potomac and the York.
recoil slinger wrote:Plus if you think one man can influence the dgif then I influenced bettsy ross to sew the american flag
Bird Junkie wrote:Zones are the answer but the people pushing for the season date change don't want zones because they don't want added pressure from come here's in their hunting grounds. I can promise this if we go to more days in nov I for one will be looking for spots in the SE because I like to shoot ducks and there are few ducks in the northern piedmont in nov.
It must have been before the public comment meeting b/c it was clear during the meeting that time was not there . Said that input from hunters from all over the state and studies would come before any change could be made .There was a push and a good chance that we would get a two week split and an earlier start date to our season this year