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can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby lostpup » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:19 pm

I've spent over 2 hours on google trying to find an answer. I see that it's legal for deer but can't find anything on bore size restriction in the waterfowl guide. If anyone knows can you provide a link so I can find it. I don't mind reading up and getting educated on the law but I have came up empty on this one. Thanks in advance.......Lostpup
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Overkill67 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:06 am

Yes it is legal, shot choice is limited however. My daughter has been using a .410 for over 2 years now and she shoots hevi shot classic #4. Doves she uses winchester 3 inch #7
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby lostpup » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:32 am

Thank you. Do you know where I can find the info to confirm that? I'm planning for my boy to use it and I know shot selection is rare. Flying birds are out also but having him hunting is what ita about.
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Overkill67 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:37 am

I spoke with several CO's and they said "if it is not forbidden in the reg's your legal" PLUS I know/knew a couple old timers that still used them. We have been checked alot over the last couple years too and all they were worried about was the non-toxic shot :thumbsup:
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Oldman1949 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:05 am

410 is legal , and it works well .
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby lostpup » Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:09 am

Again thanks guys. I am of the same understanding and agree it will be effective in the right places. I do trust you at your word. The thing is if questioned I'd like to have a reference of where I saw that it was legal. Just saying some guys on DHC told me it was okay won't work. I have looked thru the trapping and hunting digest and can't find any descriptions of legal bore size. Great to see others using the little bore gun with accuracy and lethal results.
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Oldman1949 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:40 pm

"I have looked thru the trapping and hunting digest and can't find any descriptions of legal bore size."

And you will not . But if you read the state and federal regs they will say nothing LARGER than 10ga.
Be thankful it's based on GA. instead BORE . Many of the modern shotguns have bore sizes that are greater than what a 10ga. was when these regs were written .
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby lostpup » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:25 pm

Very true. I'm basing my skepticism from IL law. We are no smaller than 20 ga. Ya IL is dumb like that. Completly get the GA~VS~ bore. That being said I've always thought .410 was legal in Indiana, as it is in AR,TN and some other close states. Would still like to find a reference even if it just saies Fed law of no larger than 10ga. I can't even find that statement !
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Oldman1949 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:25 pm

What you need to do then is call the Indiana DNR and ask them to refer you to the location in the regulations that answers your question .
Unless something has changed since last year they are going to refer you to the section that says nothing larger than 10ga. . You are worrying about something that does not need to be worried about , at least in Indiana.
This is what they are going to refer you to , it's the first thing listed in "restrictions" ;

"No person shall take migratory game birds:
■With a trap, snare, net, rifle, pistol, swivel gun, shotgun larger than 10 gauge, punt gun, battery gun, machine gun, fishhook, poison, drug, explosive or stupefying substance."
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Papachessie » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:08 pm

Oldman 1949 is exactly right. I've read that exact piece before myself in the regs. That's all the more specific they get. Damn OOSERS. :hi:
































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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby ddragon47 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:56 pm

Ya the Old Man is all ways right ever when he's wrong. :lol3:
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby lostpup » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:20 pm

Oldman1949 wrote:What you need to do then is call the Indiana DNR and ask them to refer you to the location in the regulations that answers your question .
Unless something has changed since last year they are going to refer you to the section that says nothing larger than 10ga. . You are worrying about something that does not need to be worried about , at least in Indiana.
This is what they are going to refer you to , it's the first thing listed in "restrictions" ;

"No person shall take migratory game birds:
■With a trap, snare, net, rifle, pistol, swivel gun, shotgun larger than 10 gauge, punt gun, battery gun, machine gun, fishhook, poison, drug, explosive or stupefying substance."



I did read that. That thanks for posting that reference. I'm truely not trying to be a douche I just don't want the hassel as I am an OOSer. Things seem to be more defined when you get out of state money........
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Oldman1949 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:21 pm

ddragon47 wrote:Ya the Old Man is all ways right ever when he's wrong. :lol3:


Been at it a looooong time Dave , so common sense says I've been wrong at least once . Just can't remember when it was . :wink:
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Papachessie » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:51 am

Hey Lostpup, post this in the HHole. We haven't had a good ethics battle yet this year. Some of the yahoos will love the .410 for geese. :lol3: On second thought, I'll pose the question. I haven't got a pot stirred up lately. :yes:
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby lostpup » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:00 am

Oldman can I use your picture for Papa's thread ?
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Re: can you use .410 for waterfowl

Postby Oldman1949 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:29 am

Don't see why you couldn't , have at it if you want .
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