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Postby cletus » Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:08 pm

I always use bb or bbb for geese. But now I have heard a buddy of mine who is an avid shotgunner says he uses # 2 steel for geese. He is not the first person to say that either. He said that by using 2's for geese or ducks for that fact, that you get a real nice long shot string, and a better pattern due to more pellets. Especially when using the 1 3/8 ounce loads. As well was added that with the smaller pellet you get a bit more penetration, although most of the steel passes clean through anyway. Do many others use 2's for geese. I shoot 3 1/2 inch and wouldnt mind getting one load for ducks and geese, cuz we tend to get a mixed buffet of birds in the fields. thnx!!
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Postby h2ofwlr » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:15 am

Well I think you buddy may be misguided. You do NOT want a long shot string, the after market chokes are shortening the shot strings. Long shot string = less pellets hitting the target. 2nd is the 1 3/8 loads in a 2.75 or 3" are sub HV loads--meaning the old style velocity of under 1450 fps, granted they work to 35 yds of so on geese-but there will be too many cripples beyond that. That is why HV loads are being used now a days, the penetration is much better at longer ranges. But I suspect the VHV have blown patterns based on past result of handloads, basically those over 1550fps. I think the happy medium is a HV of 1450 to 1500fps for a steel shot shell load, regardless of shell length.

Heck I have shot many a 12lb goose with 3" #3 shot, 1 1/8 oz at 1475fps over the decoys. But for longer shots I prefer bb or bbb in a 3.5" The reason for the #3 is for ducks that come in. But a happy medium for both ducks and geese(to mid range-eg 55yds) would be #2 shot .
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Postby cletus » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:44 pm

thnx h2ofwlr (I think I got that right). I was kind of looking for a happy medium, I hate trying to switch loads back and forth for ducks and geese when they come screaming in. What choke would you recommend for using the #2's. Specifically the load in choice is the Winchester expert hi velocity, 3 1/2 inch # 2's going at 1550 fps. That loads patterns pretty good with either improved or modified choke. What would you recommend, other than trying it out for myself. Thnx again.
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Postby REM1100 » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:17 am

I switched over to winchester #1s 1 1/8 oz in 3" high speed 1550 much cheaper and my rem 1100 with gunsmith reamed barrel between full and modified seemed to really perform this year... birds really folded up from 35-50 yds..seemed to have less lead even though I use the swing thru blot.... I used to use bbs for big ducks and geese but am impressed with #1s...cleaned birds ..ducks, geese and cranes had many more pellets closer together.

however my 870 dosn't like bbs, 1s ,2s, but works well with #3 full steel choke

just my 2 cents..nothing theoretical!
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Postby plainsman » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:13 pm

cletus wrote: Specifically the load in choice is the Winchester expert hi velocity, 3 1/2 inch # 2's going at 1550 fps. That loads patterns pretty good with either improved or modified choke. What would you recommend, other than trying it out for myself. Thnx again.

I use the same load[ #2's and BB ]. I find that the factory full that came with my 935 does a GREAT job on the geese. Head shots up close and holds the pattern really well after it gets out there a ways :thumbsup:
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