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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby asmythe32 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:43 pm

How did you attach the tarp to the conduit? Also did you attach it at the bottom or just let it hang. Trying to do this tomorrow for a wind and rain blocker
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby canderso » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:16 pm

The tarp is attached with zip ties. I used an awl to punch holes through the tarp to run the zip ties through. I zip tied the tarp along both of the pieces of conduit along each side.

The tarp hangs free right now. I am planning on folding the tarp up along the bottom and putting in grommets. Then I plan to run a bungee cord through the grommets from the stern to the bow. Hopefully that will be enough to supply the needed tension to keep the tarp from flapping around in the wind. As of now, the wind we have had recently, blows the tarp into the boat. Not horrible, but certainly is not ideal. Plus it would allow water to come into the boat if it were raining.
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby asmythe32 » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:05 pm

ok thanks. We already have some snaps attached to the boat for a cover so i am gonna put some snaps on the tarp and just snap it to the boat when we are using it and hoefully it keeps it from blowing around.
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Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby Russ-n-Brazoria » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:38 pm

You said you had too weld the conduit, what are you using to weld it?
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby canderso » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:19 am

MIG process, with 80/20 gas, .023 wire and a lower amperage setting. I did small spot welds all the way around with spacing between each. Then worked my way around. I tried not to build up too much heat, but made sure to get good weld penetration. I also used a 1/2" piece of conduit inside of the joint and burned into that.

Hope that helps.
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Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby Russ-n-Brazoria » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:08 am

Sure did I gotta drag the BIL in now :lol:
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby canderso » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:43 am

Russ, the piece of inner conduit was 1/2" OD and was approximately 6-8" long. My lower amperage setting was somewhere around 2. My machine simply uses a dial number 1-10 for amperage settings. Sorry I can't provide exact numbers.

If your BIL is a welder, he will do it in his sleep. I think the four joints took maybe 15mins total. More time was involved with moving the equipment to the boat and around the boat.
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Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby Russ-n-Brazoria » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:30 pm

Yea it sounds easy enough, I can weld it but he's got the mig welder. I'll just bend it to shape on my 14' Jon and take them to his shop and finish them up
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby FFT » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:27 pm

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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/01/12)

Postby canderso » Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:51 pm

Thanks FFT.

Finally got the left side done tonight. Had family commitments the past two weeks that really have slowed things down. With the Youth Hunt yesterday, I had to find some time today to get moving. Still feels like there is too much to get done, but somehow it will get done!

Here are some updated pics of the left side all grassed up.

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Still left to do:

-order and wire in new navigation lights
-check lights on trailer
-get out to make any final tuning required on the engine
-finish grassing right side of blind.
-add bungee cords to the bottom of both sides to help the billowing effect from the wind
-make grass covers to lay over the top of the blind between shooters

probably lots more that I am forgetting right now.

Tomorrow, I am going to look at a new boat, for next season and one of those fancy Chesapeake Bay Retrievers! Pretty excited about that! Perhaps a new pup is coming in the spring.
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Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/14/12)

Postby Russ-n-Brazoria » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:47 pm

I feel your pain man, I went out yesterday and cut cane for a buddy's permanent blind.
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And I got two buddies foaming at the mouth to do something similar to your rig on my Jon boat. Ain't no rest hand ;)
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/14/12)

Postby tod0987 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:52 pm

Looks awesome! :thumbsup:
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/14/12)

Postby FFT » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:19 pm

Wow, your almost there. And congrats on the youth hunt. I saw your pics somewhere on here or there. I can't remember.

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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/14/12)

Postby canderso » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:44 pm

Got a little more done yesterday. Started to turn the corner.

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I made two dog holes in the side since I typically hunt with a friend and we each bring along a pup.

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I was having a problem with the blind catching the wind and billowing like a sail. Once the wind would settle down, the blind would end up inside of the boat. I decided to try something. I ran a length of rope from stem to stern attached with a short lenght of bungee cord at the bow end. Then I folded the camo tarp up under the rope and put into grommets. Next, I had some holes drilled in the hull of the boat right below the gunnels by the previous owner. I have know idea of why they were there, so I decided to make the best of them and riveted some of these black plastic hold downs to secure the rope to the hull just below the gunnel. I am hoping these do two things; 1. keep the blind from billowing so much in the wind, and 2. help keep the blind from falling in the water when I set the blind down for transportation.

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Let me know your thoughts on this.

I managed to get a new red/green bow light, new stern light and light socket, as well as a tiller handle extension.

I feel like I am getting there.
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby canderso » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:50 pm

Thanks John.

As mentioned, I got my son out for one of our Youth Waterfowl Hunts and he managed to get his first goose, ever!

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I managed to get out with a friend on Wednesday to hunt in Central PA. We scraped together a pretty nice looking drake Mallard on an otherwise beautiful blue bird day. I just started calling last year, so to my excitement, I managed to call this drake in while my friend took the honors. Well, and my little white wonder dog made the retrieve.

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Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby Russ-n-Brazoria » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:01 pm

I think the rope grommet rig will work, I've been thinking on how to keep it taunt.

Is that taffet grass and killer weed the same thing, just loose synthetic grass or is the killer weed a netting?
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby canderso » Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:57 pm

I am not sure about the difference. Avery does sell raffia grass, which of course they do not call raffia grass. I think it may be called killer weed. But that is only from trying to remember what others have been calling it in their posts.

The grass I am using is raffia grass from J.Stern in Ohio. Raffia grass is actually a natural product. I believe it is grown in Madagascar.
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby lukea.becker » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:09 pm

great looking blind man it is coming together nicely! Contrats to your son as well on his first goose, that's awesome. I really like the design of your blind and hope to make one similar soon, running way short on time this season is would seem though.

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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby jerseydutch » Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:10 pm

Avery grass is called killer weed....it is just raffia grass they put into different camo blends. Raffia grass is a natural grass from madagascar like mentioned. Jstern from Ohio supplies raffia grass for avery and all the hobby shops. If you need grass go to jstern. They will send you a color card with each color of grass attached so you can match to your local veg. Great customer service and great price. You have to order wholesale from them, min order is 25lbs. We ordered 30lbs a month ago in a bunch of different colors.
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby spoonielips » Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:31 am

Nice blind, and love seeing the next generation of duck hunters too! I do my part also. Just wondering, can you sit lower than your boy is there, to duck down under it in the rain?
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby canderso » Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:52 pm

spoonielips wrote:Just wondering, can you sit lower than your boy is there, to duck down under it in the rain?


Yes, I made it an open top blind due to hunting with a couple of people that are older (in their 70's) and not so much interested in being hunkered down inside. We also hunt divers out of it like this.

As for my son and I, we can set down inside of the boat and get low enough to close the top a little more. You would lose a fair amount of vision doing that though.
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby tod0987 » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:37 pm

Canderso, Looking good!

Ziptying mine on as well. Any thoughts on killing the shine off the ties? Not sure regular rattle can would stick?
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Updated 10/21/12)

Postby B.Hud » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:00 pm

looks good so far
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Re: Yet another new blind build. (Completed 10/30/12)

Postby canderso » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:30 pm

Had the last 2 days off work, due to the incoming storm, Hurricane Sandy. Figured I might as well use the time to my advantage and finish the blind for the season.

Got the rest of the grass done. Moved the top straps that secure the blind open to give the most open cockpit that would not impede movement by the hunters. Lastly, I added an additional strap so that the left side of the blind can remain up. Once the dogs are sent for the retrieve, we can easily lower the right side of the blind to recover the dogs. As you can see there are two dogs holes. I typically hunt 2 dogs. One will usually vie for sitting up on the bow, the other will have to settle for laying inside and peeking out one of the two holes. My dog, can jump for the retrieve from either hole. As you can see, she is a small English Setter. My buddy runs a much larger Deutsche Drahthaar. She will have to be on the bow to jump for the retrieve. She is simply too tall at the shoulder to make the leap. Besides, my little one is will to jump in the water from anywhere you say to. Not the typical English Setter.

On to the pics.

What will be the back side of the blind, with "Waldo" in the boat for reference on height of blind to height of the gunners.
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Front side of blind, with two dog ports and Waldo in the front.
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Front again with Waldo in the middle.
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Front, one more time with Waldo Sr and Waldo Jr. This is likely how we will hunt if it is just the two of us and my dog.
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Aerial view. The ducks will be able to see down inside like this, but we will leave the top open for diver hunting.
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If we get into puddlers enough this year, we will try this configuration first. If I feel the ducks are flaring too much, I will throw some military camo netting over the top between the hunters to cut down on the "black hole effect."

Lastly, a gratuitous shot of my fancy duck dog. My little white wonder dog, Abby.
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Hoping to add another pup to the mix in the spring.
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Yet another new blind build. (Completed 10/30/12)

Postby Russ-n-Brazoria » Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:56 am

Well me and a hunting buddy bit the bullet last night. Got the Bimini parts and conduit and made a frame for my 14' Jon boat. We are having to use a 4x4 block up front to level the pivot but I'm liking the lightweight and simplicity of the rig :D
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