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converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:27 pm

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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:29 pm

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Re: converting Into a layout boat

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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby MissedAgain » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:44 pm

Nice little boat - you may want to consider removing the middle seat so you can lay out.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:04 pm

Ywa thats the plan. I will probably take it out tomorrow. Thanks!
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby slayer73 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:18 am

That is the same boat I had when I first started out. I have very fond memories of hunting out of it. One of them is paddling all the way out to our spot setting decoys and my dad says "wow there sure is a lot of water in the bottom of this thing!" and it was power paddle time all the way back with about 8" in the bottom by the time we got to shore lol. If I were you I would re-enforce the keel all the way down and also obviously where you have the hole by the transom. I would put as many layers of glass cloth as you can on those spots. When you transport it in the back of your pickup or on a trailer make sure you strap it down tight. I think mine was bouncing when we went over bumps and that is how it cracked down the keel. I am not bashing your boat either...it was a fun boat!
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby sharris » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:26 am

I used to have one of those boats (my first fishing boat). It cracked at the same spot as well as later in the bow (or keel? I'm not sure the correct term) along the seam (just in front of where yours is painted brown). Looks like yours has had a couple poor quality repairs already done to it. I used a similar repair kit and it held up for a few years until I sold the boat. My boat lived in NM and AZ for years and was out uncovered in the hot sun for more than a decade before I picked it up -- the fiberglass got brittle which was causing the problems. The good news is I absolutely know that the boat will float half full of water :oops: . Good luck and wear a life jacket...you might need it.

By the way, if I were repairing it I'd completely sand off the old patches and fill in the gaps with an epoxy mixed with a filling compound. Then I'd sand it into shape and then epoxy on a fiberglass patch on both the inside and outside of the boat over the crack. If you just put a cheap patch on over the crack there will be movement and the patch will fail. By filling it you give the patch a solid surface to cover and it will be far more effective.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby sharris » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:29 am

Looking at your pics again it does look like you also have a small crack in the keel in front of the brown paint that will also need to be patched.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby sharris » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:33 am

slayer73 wrote:That is the same boat I had when I first started out. I have very fond memories of hunting out of it. One of them is paddling all the way out to our spot setting decoys and my dad says "wow there sure is a lot of water in the bottom of this thing!" and it was power paddle time all the way back with about 8" in the bottom by the time we got to shore lol. If I were you I would re-enforce the keel all the way down and also obviously where you have the hole by the transom. I would put as many layers of glass cloth as you can on those spots. When you transport it in the back of your pickup or on a trailer make sure you strap it down tight. I think mine was bouncing when we went over bumps and that is how it cracked down the keel. I am not bashing your boat either...it was a fun boat!


My wife said the same thing about our boat when I did a test run after fixing the crack in the back. I told her it was just a little "rain water" from the night before. She believed me until our Styrofoam sandwich containers were floating around the bottom of the boat. That's how I found the crack in the front of my boat...
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:37 am

Hey guys thanks for the advice. I did find the crack in the bottom also. So it will be repaired too. And I might try to fill the back cracj befor patcging it. I will do some work on it this afternoon and will update
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby MissedAgain » Wed Jul 31, 2013 7:23 pm

You will probably want to reinforce the entire keel - it is not a lot of work, just sand it good into the gel coat and cut the fiberglass cloth into strips. Lay down a thin strip, then lay a wider one over it. That should help you out.

Fiberglass mat will also work but it uses more resin- use the same way, two layers, a narrow one and a wider one.

I would do the same at the transom.

Can you get at the inside of the bottom? A layer of cloth along the seam on the inside would finish the "sandwich" and there would be no worries about it.

My first boat was a plastic sports yak - we would use a soldering iron and melt plastic into the cracks and gouges. I used to drag it over rocks and such going fishing & duck/goose hunting. That boat was a blast and lasted me a long time.

Best wishes to you with your project.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:33 pm

thanks everybody. I appreciate all the advice. I worked on the outside of the transom tonight this was my first attempt at using fiberglass at last I think it went good we will see in the morning. But the plan is towork on the inside of the transom tomorrow to finishthe sandwich. I was thinking the same thing for reenforcing the keel. Thamks. Pictures to come in the morning
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:56 am

Imagehere are the pictures of the Imagecompleted fiberglass work I think it will work prettu well
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:50 pm

Imageoday I got the center bench cut out today and I think it will work very well. And its nice and roomy

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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:58 pm

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Ialso beefed up/ added a transom. I probablu wont evet have a motor on it but maybe. Amd I figured it would help beef up the ba k
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby radfordc » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:59 am

Since you want a layout boat, why not cut away the hull sides down to level with the top of the seats. You will get rid of a lot of weight and bulk. Add strips of wood to make new gunnels.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby hillbilly.. » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:53 pm

what you got on the back side of the transom for the 2x12 attachd to?
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby slayer73 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:12 am

wow I didn't notice the the rail was missing from around the transom. I think you may want to do some reinforcing back there. The rail used to go all the way to the motor mount and it was used as handles also . Might want to fix something back there if you are going to use a motor.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:37 am

Hey guys. Thanks for the replie and the advice. The transom is in pretty bad shap so I will probably never put a motor on it. Maybe a small trolling motor. Maybe. The board is mostly for reenforcment and to cover a craxk on the inside. I look ke the idea of cutting the sides downto the bench seats. I had considered this but wasnt sure avout it. Do yallthink it would woek? Iwould cut it down and then put 1x4s around the top to make the gunnals and rub rail
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby slayer73 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:13 pm

I guess I would not want to guess whether the boat would fold up from cutting down the height to the seats. I do know there was strength built into the top rail.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Mon Aug 05, 2013 1:32 pm

Yea thats what I was worried about. I dont know if the 1bys would help give it strength
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby radfordc » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:07 pm

I would cut down the sides and then add a 1/4" ply top. Something like this should work.
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby Jangle » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:58 am

I like the idea of cuttimg down sides. But will they be to low if I cut them to the tops of the seats?
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby MODuckkiller » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:27 am

radfordc wrote:I would cut down the sides and then add a 1/4" ply top. Something like this should work.

I second that. If you're wanting a true lay out this would defintely do the trick!
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Re: converting Into a layout boat

Postby MODuckkiller » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:19 am

Definitely keep us posted on the build! Nice work!
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