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Long Tail Kit?

Postby 18javelin » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:12 am

Looking to pick up a 14-16' boat over the summer for a skinny water set up I have a 11 HP Honda engine already. I will be using this rig only in back water and 2 guys and dog max.... Just need it to push us 2 miles max.

2 questions

#1 will 11HP be enough for a 16 if I found a good deal? I will be going through timber and flooded fields and a small creek size river...

#2 which kit would be the best route seen the link swamp posted for mud skipper kit 395.00 which wouldn't be bad being I have a Like new Honda 11HP....

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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby radfordc » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:13 am

I've got a Swamp Runner kit. I think it's better than a Mud Skipper.
http://mudmotorkit.com/index.php/mud-mo ... unner.html
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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby dogyak » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:22 pm

radfordc wrote:I've got a Swamp Runner kit. I think it's better than a Mud Skipper.
http://mudmotorkit.com/index.php/mud-mo ... unner.html
Same here . Go with the swamp runner kit . For one , the frame is heavier and stronger than Mud Skipper
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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby AJCsurf » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:32 pm

Everything has zerk fittings, its heavier duty, the transom mount is beefier and has a tighter and deeper grab on your transom, you can mount your tiller handle on either side without having to flip the engine plate mount and make your angle of force worse/better etc etc...

Plus, it doesn't have a static throttle. With swamp runner, you can get a squeeze lever throttle for $15.00.

The mud skipper style is the old version of SPS/KKK thai longtails. Mud skipper is the KKK version and doesn't have any of the upgrades that swamp runner (sps) does.

Good luck and post up when you get it all dialed in. :beer:
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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby 18javelin » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:07 pm

Now that's a review thanks gonna check the differences out to many times I've been burned just "getting by". A hundred bucks isn't worth the hassle.


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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby 18javelin » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:58 am

Just seen we also had a 5.5 hp honda motor with the 11 hp what's the max boat that the 5.5 would push?


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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby AJCsurf » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:31 am

18javelin wrote:Just seen we also had a 5.5 hp honda motor with the 11 hp what's the max boat that the 5.5 would push?


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It would put-put a 12 foot er around but on the right layout boat it would be pretty sweet. Those little 5.5 with some basic upgrades can do some damage for the amount they actually weigh. :thumbsup:
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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby GMag10 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:21 pm

Forget the Thai longtail kits. Buy a tradtional kit from Backwater or a even a local fabricator. If you will be using this in skinny water as you stated, you do not want to deal with keyed cast aluminum prop or a flimsy outdrive...

The Thai kits have their place but not on the back of a 16' boat in shallow water.

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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby handyandy » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:29 pm

I've been looking at the swamp runner mini longtail kit to use on my nucanoe but can't find any info on weight of it with a harbor freight 2.5hp engine on it which is probably what I would use sinece they can be picked up for less than a hundred bucks.
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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby radfordc » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:00 pm

I have a mini with a LiFan 2.5hp motor which is the same thing as the HF motor (I think). I just went out to the shed and weighed it...45lbs.
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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby handyandy » Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:40 am

thanks a lot I imagine all those 2-3hp engines that you can use on the mini kit weigh around the same.
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Re: Long Tail Kit?

Postby goosepit2007 » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:04 am

here is a very good longtail setup do not have to lean over the boat to turn sharp. the prop is like built like auger (180 degree propulsion) alot of power belt pulley setup that adds power to prop end. they have review on there of guy pulling in a pontoon boat with his 13 hp setup.

https://www.scavengerbackwater.com/cgi- ... e=Home.htm
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https://www.scavengerbackwater.com/cgi- ... =turns.htm
https://www.scavengerbackwater.com/cgi- ... =drive.htm
https://www.scavengerbackwater.com/cgi- ... _Pittiglio
https://www.scavengerbackwater.com/cgi- ... ricing.htm

these are alot better than the u-joints set ups ect that take alot of power away from the motors. plus transfer hits ect to the motor that damages they motor ect after time. kevelar belts...the prop by desighn keeps debrees from the lower seals tough as nails set up.
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