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Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby 0321Tony » Fri May 23, 2014 2:46 pm

I just picked up a small 14 jon boat to access a spot I have really good luck at. I can't launch my bigger boats because of tides in the area so I have to be able to hand launch it. I need to run about 1 mile and I already have an 8hp outboard for it so I plan to use that. Does anyone have that or similar setup and will it plane two guys and a dog?

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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby Rhock19 » Fri May 23, 2014 2:53 pm

depending on the amount of gear and currents you will be able to plane out. I used to run a 14 foot semi v with a 6 hp johnson with three guys and a dozen decoys and we would plane out going with the current. with the 8 hp you should have no problems. it wont be fast by any means but planeable
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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby mr.green » Sat May 24, 2014 8:07 am

I have a 14ft with a 9.9 and I'll plane with an adult passenger dog and gear. Just leave a few minutes earlier.


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Postby nscochrane1009 » Sat May 24, 2014 5:12 pm

I have a 1432 with a 25hp, me and two buddies with gear plane out.


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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby CountryRN » Sat May 24, 2014 6:01 pm

I run a 12x36 with a 9.5. It will push me about 18mph. I have seen video of the same motor pushing 14 footers on step but the aren't going to win any races.
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Postby WSUWESTON » Sun May 25, 2014 11:51 pm

I don't see you guys planing it out unless you are some really small guys. I ran a 14 with a 6hp and it would only plane empty with the driver. I run a 15 now and it is scary quick.
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Postby agtex42 » Mon May 26, 2014 10:13 am

You'll have to watch your weight distribution and even then that motor may not be enough to plane with the load you're talking about. I have a 1442 with a 15hp Merc and it can plane with a similar load at 20 mph but I can't put any significant weight past center or it will just plow water. I'm running a trolling motor and battery up front with a plywood floor in the center so you may be able to get away with a little more if your hull is bare bones.
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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby 0321Tony » Mon May 26, 2014 11:13 am

Thanks for the replies I am hoping to put the boat in the water this next week to give it a try. I already had the motor and got a smoking deal on a 14' waco 1836 and trailer for 200$ it's rated for up to 20 but I will only use this boat to get to one of my spots and it's only about a mile run up a river. I used this motor on my 10' zodiac and with 2 people dog decoys blind etc I could still get it up on step but it took a while. I was hoping the flat bottom it would still get up. I guess if it doesn't do it I can just put a 20hp jet on it and get even more places with it.

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Postby Rhock19 » Mon May 26, 2014 2:49 pm

let us know how it goes!
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Postby Swanny » Mon May 26, 2014 3:19 pm

I had a 14' er with a 8hp. Planed out great with 2 guys dog and gear with a hydrofin. Wouldn't plane without the fin and just me.
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Postby 0321Tony » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:59 pm

So I spent the last week working over the boat and trailer and finally got it on the water. I had me my three dogs and two daughters in it so total of about 400lbs and the 8hp was plenty to get it up on step and run guessing about 14-16mph I forgot my gps. It ran good enough I don't think it'll be a problem to run with another person in there too. ImageImage
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Postby Mark F. Cheney » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:34 pm

That is a great family photo you have there. Thank you.

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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby 0321Tony » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:15 pm

Thank you sir

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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby 0321Tony » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:27 am

For anyone else with similar boat size motor size questions I ran this boat again this weekend and had my hunting buddy myself and my two daughters in the boat and went to do some rainbow fishing. The boat still with no problems was able to get up on step and run about 12-14mph again I didn't have a gps. I'm guessing I had about 500lbs total in the boat and was surprised how well it did. The boat is a 1836 waco jon boat and the stripped dry weight on it is 170lbs.

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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby Weedwacker » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:45 am

Well, I built a boat last year out of a 1436 , but added weight with floor and top for a motorized layout type boat.

Started with a briggs air cooled 5hp, wasn't enough although it moved me very well.

Found an older 10 honda (what I wanted due to less weight and four stroke).

With nothing but me, fuel and a dry bag ( no blind or spray hood) I got 18 mph.
In hunt mode, me, dog, gear, 12-24 decoys I got 14mph on my GPS. I did add a dolphin which helped in stability an some added speed, but boat is rated for 10hp so wanted to stay at the HP.
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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby mudpack » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:43 pm

0321Tony wrote:I just picked up a small 14 jon boat...I already have an 8hp outboard for it so I plan to use that.... will it plane two guys and a dog?


Maybe. No....probably.
You will undoubtedly have to carefully move the load around to get it up on plane. Once it's planing out (IF it does), center of gravity won't be as important. By the way, the "two daughters and three dogs" pictured weigh about 150 pounds total, so leave the Lab in, take out the two children and two foo-foo dogs, and add an adult male and it might be all that 8hp can handle.
A lot depends on if the two guys you plan to put in it weigh 160 each or 280 each...... :yes:
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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby 0321Tony » Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:07 pm

mudpack wrote:
0321Tony wrote:I just picked up a small 14 jon boat...I already have an 8hp outboard for it so I plan to use that.... will it plane two guys and a dog?


Maybe. No....probably.
You will undoubtedly have to carefully move the load around to get it up on plane. Once it's planing out (IF it does), center of gravity won't be as important. By the way, the "two daughters and three dogs" pictured weigh about 150 pounds total, so leave the Lab in, take out the two children and two foo-foo dogs, and add an adult male and it might be all that 8hp can handle.
A lot depends on if the two guys you plan to put in it weigh 160 each or 280 each...... :yes:


Yeah my Foo Foo dogs one is a rabbit machine (can't hunt ducks all year) and the other not pictured is an American pit that keeps the Bears out of the yard when my kids are playing. My lab is the smallest by weight dog I own.
Thanks for the reply but my last post was about how it did with 2 guys two kids, fishing gear and enough stuff to keep two kids under 3 entertained. Surprisingly enough it planed excellent with all of us (close to 500lbs) in the boat. It'll do just fine to get me into the few areas I can't get my bigger boats too. The boat is rated for 20hp and I'd love to put a jet on it but for now the 8hp will have to do

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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby mudpack » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:10 pm

0321Tony wrote: My lab is the smallest by weight dog I own.

Your beagle weighs more than your Lab?? :huh:
Glad it's working out for you. :thumbsup:
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Postby 0321Tony » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:42 pm

mudpack wrote:
0321Tony wrote: My lab is the smallest by weight dog I own.

Your beagle weighs more than your Lab?? :huh:
Glad it's working out for you. :thumbsup:


Yep. Lab is 8months old and only 34 lbs the begal is 45 lbs. I always thought the begal was fat but the vet says she is right where she should be. I don't expect my lab to get over 50lbs
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0321Tony wrote: My lab is the smallest by weight dog I own.

Your beagle weighs more than your Lab?? :huh:
Glad it's working out for you. :thumbsup:



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Re: Anyone else have a 14' jon boat with an 8hp motor?

Postby goldfish » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:22 am

Rhock19 wrote:depending on the amount of gear and currents you will be able to plane out. I used to run a 14 foot semi v with a 6 hp johnson with three guys and a dozen decoys and we would plane out going with the current. with the 8 hp you should have no problems. it wont be fast by any means but planeable

Uh, your boat doesn't care if it's going with the current or not. It pushes itself thru water at the same speed regardless. Now, your movement across the landscape will change if you are going with or against the current, but that shouldn't change if you can get on plane.

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Postby Rhock19 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:45 am

so you are saying that going upstream is the exact same as downstream? I would like to hear the theory behind that.
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Postby mudpack » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:57 am

Rhock19 wrote:so you are saying that going upstream is the exact same as downstream?

To your boat, yes. To you riding in the boat, though, there is a difference (in groundspeed). To a boat, current only adds to or subtracts from groundspeed, nothing else.

goldfish wrote: Now, your movement across the landscape will change if you are going with or against the current, but that shouldn't change if you can get on plane.

Doesn't matter if you are on plane or not, current will add to or subtract from groundspeed.
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Postby Rhock19 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:39 pm

Thats what i would come to understand, its like a car on a treadmill. Going into current your gps speed will slow, but the boat will technically be going normal speed if you compare the hull to the amount of water passing below. so going upstream is obviously slower from your point a to point b.
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Postby goldfish » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:55 pm

Rhock19 wrote:Thats what i would come to understand, its like a car on a treadmill. Going into current your gps speed will slow, but the boat will technically be going normal speed if you compare the hull to the amount of water passing below. so going upstream is obviously slower from your point a to point b.

You misunderstood what I said, because I said that same thing.

You going across the landscape (geographic position) will obviously be faster going down stream, but like you said about a car on a treadmill, the boat doesn't know any different so it won't plane any better going downstream than up.

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Postby Rhock19 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:53 pm

yep i reread what u posted and see that now, just a misread
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