Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

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Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby glenfish » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:16 am

Looking to get a small mud motor 6.5 hp for my Grumman Sportboat. Any suggestions including brands would be helpful. Seems I can get a new long tail for $1500 or less. Surface drive seems to be more in the $2500 range.

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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby h.kizzle » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:38 pm

A 6.5 HP Backwater Swomp Lite or a 7 HP PPF Wood Duck would probably be awesome on that boat. The Swomp Lite runs $1550 the Wood Duck is $1200. I've seen the Swomp Lite at the Backwater shop when I picked up my Swomp23 motor. I know they have a great bearing system and am really happy with the 23, so I imagine that the Lite would be awesome too. My bro in law is getting a Wood Duck this week and I'm curious to see what it's all about.

I've thought about a similar setup and like the idea of the longtail over the surface drive. You have more reach and leverage if you get stuck. Not sure which motor I'd pick yet, but one of those two for sure.
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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby mudpack » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:07 am

I doubt the Sportboat would be able to take advantage of the benefits of a surface drive.
I, too, would go the long tail route.


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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby glenfish » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:05 am

Thanks for the info. Longtail is sure easier on my budget. Should I spend the extra for a honda power head?

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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby mudpack » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:38 am

glenfish wrote:Should I spend the extra for a honda power head? Glen


Of course.

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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby mauserfan » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:14 am

I would look at reinforcing the stern if you do this. They are generally pretty light and may not take the added torque. Just my .02....mauser
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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby h.kizzle » Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:01 pm

^^^ good point there. What is the sportboat rated for?
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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby glenfish » Wed Jul 09, 2014 5:25 am

These are factory rated for a 6hp motor. I ran a 9.8hp two stroke on my old boat for years. I have seen them run with a 15hp.
Pretty sure I will end up with a 6hp or 7hp long tail.
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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby threedogs » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:55 am

glenfish wrote: Should I spend the extra for a honda power head?

Glen



No , the 212 is a hell of a good motor . I have a PPF w/ Predator 212 and I love it .
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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby hedge » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:23 pm

I run a long tail . it's amazing what a fully loaded Grumman sport canoe will go through with a little 7 HP .
I run the PPF . pros quick Pin release for portaging
Cons motor needs to be strapped down to the boat until after unloading and before loading on the trailer, and I found it quite difficult to get the Angle iron bracket bolted to my transom properly .
if you don't need to remove your motor For portaging I would definitely take A look at back waters . there transom mount and locking features are the key items I would look for in a new motor purchase. all long tails are pretty much bulletproof good luck with your choice hope this helped; Hedge.
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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby sorensonhs » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:32 am

2nd on the backwater motors, great guys. great motors.
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Re: Surface drive vs. Longtail for my Grumman?

Postby glenfish » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:10 pm

Thanks for all the help. I am still a few week away from buying a motor. Most of our duck hunting down here is pretty late.
First project will be a paint job. Then the motor.
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