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mud motors pros and cons??

Postby duckspeaker1 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:09 pm

im looking to buy a grizzly 1754 Jon boat this week and im debating on getting a mud motor. i know it would help me get through the over growth i hunt in but im worried about the effectiveness of it without have a reverse gear.....please shed some light
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby Rhock19 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:59 pm

You can get shorttails with reverse, gator tail, pro drive, go devil, and im pretty sure mud buddy does now too
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Postby duckspeaker1 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:06 pm

Rhock19 wrote:You can get shorttails with reverse, gator tail, pro drive, go devil, and im pretty sure mud buddy does now too


ive seen that but i believe those will cost more than my boat and trailer right?
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby t_baker » Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:47 pm

duckspeaker1 wrote:
Rhock19 wrote:You can get shorttails with reverse, gator tail, pro drive, go devil, and im pretty sure mud buddy does now too


ive seen that but i believe those will cost more than my boat and trailer right?

Then I guess it's not even an option. Why worry about it?
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby Rhock19 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:22 pm

Gator tails run 800 more for reverse, pro drive comes standard as full power reverse. Not sure the difference with other companies. If ur going to buy a brand new one you may as well get reverse unless you know you will never use it
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Postby mdycrk » Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:32 pm

I used my reverse once last year, because I wanted to. If you can get it get it, if you can't learn to drive.
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby cupnglide » Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:23 pm

One thing to consider, that Grizzly has runners down the bottom. If you get it into really shallow stuff and can't go forward, there's no way you are poling it or pushing it around. Your only option will be backwards. So either you'd better get reverse, or you better stay out of the sketchy shallow stuff with that hull.
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby duckspeaker1 » Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:18 pm

the main thing ill be doing is going down natural trails in cat tails and reeds. the water is still usually about 18inches deep but the paths are about 4ft wide. my new boat will be 6 ft wide so turning around isnt really an option... ive never used a push pole before but figure maybe its a cheaper alternative for reverse? or will this new set up allow me to make my own path through the reeds? if so then ill have a whole new 4 acre back water that i can hunt!
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby Reel Teal » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:08 pm

Is it super mucky where you are? Bc you could always just get out and push it backwards or spin it around. I mean thats what we do. Sometimes all 3 have to get out to cross a shallow patch. I guess the conditions will dictate that wherever you are

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Postby duckspeaker1 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:24 pm

Yeah im used to walking my 12ft back there so worst come to worse I could do it again but im hoping to stay in the boat the whole time if i invest in a better rig ya know?
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby Rhock19 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:52 pm

Another suggestion is gatorglide the bottom of the boat. The stuff is crazy slick and if you decide not to get reverse it will help you spin it around. And it will help goimg through the crap with the mud motor
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby Cajun1085 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:15 pm

If you want a mud motor...don't get a boat that isn't made for a mud motor if you don't already have it. If you are buying a boat and motor get the right set up from the start. You won't be getting the full potential out of the motor. You want a smooth, flat bottom boat.
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby duckspeaker1 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:32 pm

I figure the grizzly will suit my needs with fishing and taking my wife and dogs out on the lake but also be my duck boat. I live in Michigan so ive got the big lakes around and im sold on the integrity of the boat. As long as the motor gets me where I want to go as efficient and effectively/or more than an outboard then I will be fine with not getting 100% out of the motor to have a more solidly universal boat too
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby Cajun1085 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:41 pm

It will get you there. It may be at 23-24 mph with a load. 26-27mph empty on a stock motor. As long as you are ok with that it should be all good.
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby duckspeaker1 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:19 am

Lol honestly that sounds amazing! I have a 12ft tracker with a 2010 5hp merc right now lol if I can go 15mph id feel like its fast haha. Heck I went my first 2 seasons with the same boat but with a 35lb minnkota and a paddle lol. I have about a 1mile trec from the launch to any of my spots on my honey hole too.
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby aunt betty » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:31 am

Don't know how I could have killed all the ducks I have over all the years without having a mud motor or a surface drive. Must be a fluke. :sarcmark:
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby bobneilson » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:51 am

I had a mud motor on my Lowe boat. I was continually frustrated as Lowe is not a good hull setup for mud motors. I added pods to the back because the motor was too heavy. The added weight of two batteries, men, decoys, dog, blind, and gear made the loading of the boat to run effectively, a major challenge in the dark. Add the no reverse and the 4 feet of swing needed from the tiller handle and it took up too much space. Now the bad part, in my case I have to stand up to steer. I did get into water that no outboard could have even attempted, but that was not often enough to compensate for the negatives. Same motor on a hull designed for mud motors and the whole answer changes. They are powerful, and the torque is very impressive.
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby bobneilson » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:53 am

Cajun1085 wrote:If you want a mud motor...don't get a boat that isn't made for a mud motor if you don't already have it. If you are buying a boat and motor get the right set up from the start. You won't be getting the full potential out of the motor. You want a smooth, flat bottom boat.



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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby duckspeaker1 » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:01 am

Was the lowe a v bottom?
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby duckspeaker1 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:45 pm

So I just got home with my new 36hp vanguard pro drive put a deposit on the boat and should be picking it up Tuesday! Thanks for all the help guys!
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby Rhock19 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:23 pm

Sweet! Post some pics when u get it!
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Re: mud motors pros and cons??

Postby duckspeaker1 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:22 pm

I tried. Not sure how to... :(
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