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Postby ChattanoogaDuckHunter » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:25 pm

One of my hunting buddies just got his bird back he killed about 4 years ago. It sat in his freezer for 3 years before he took it to the taxidermist. How's she look? It's suppose to be a preening mount.
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Re: New Mount

Postby duxrus » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:10 pm

It has some major issues. If I was to guess he price shopped and had a "deer guy" mount it. IMO

P.s. Your buddy has it backwards as far as view. On preening poses you should be seeing the open wing side ;)
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Postby ChattanoogaDuckHunter » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:43 pm

duxrus wrote:It has some major issues. If I was to guess he price shopped and had a "deer guy" mount it. IMO

P.s. Your buddy has it backwards as far as view. On preening poses you should be seeing the open wing side ;)


Whats the major issues?


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Re: New Mount

Postby duxrus » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:45 pm

Not sure what the eyes are doing and look at any picture of a drake woodie and compare the side pockets . Those gold white tipped feathers arent anywhere close to how they should be. That is a tell tale sign of the taxidermist just thinking "Good enough" which was far from being correct. Odds are the eyes aren't glued to the flex eye base so they are free to roll around. From the picture it looks like he is staring off into the distance behind him while picking at his wing infront of him. His pupils are angled backward.

These are two main issues that could have easily been avoided which leads me to say it wasn't someone who does many of them. I am not trying to bash your friends bird but you did ask. Too many of these posts get sugar coated "great job" responses instead of honest opinions.
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Re: New Mount

Postby ChattanoogaDuckHunter » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:47 pm

duxrus wrote:Not sure what the eyes are doing and look at any picture of a drake woodie and compare the side pockets . Those gold white tipped feathers arent anywhere close to how they should be. That is a tell tale sign of the taxidermist just thinking "Good enough" which was far from being correct. Odds are the eyes aren't glued to the flex eye base so they are free to roll around. From the picture it looks like he is staring off into the distance behind him while picking at his wing infront of him. His pupils are angled backward.

These are two main issues that could have easily been avoided which leads me to say it wasn't someone who does many of them. I am not trying to bash your friends bird but you did ask. Too many of these posts get sugar coated "great job" responses instead of honest opinions.


You were right on t being a "deer guy"


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Re: New Mount

Postby The Waterfowler » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:18 am

I've pretty much quit commenting on posts like this as Brian said it right as so many post "Great mount, nice bird and other sugary adjectives. I'm glad to see the honesty in his reply. And like he said, you asked for an honest opinion. It could be that you, or him, are looking for an approval for something you already know is bad. Yes, the eyes are skewed and not binocular as they should be. With the little sprig of habitat in the front it stands to reason that the show side is opposite that. The back is way too flat to be correct and the body is elongated. A Wood duck has a body not much over 6 inches. Breast is flat with no neck/crop junction and anatomically off. I also have a problem with the paint job on the bill. I know some don't use an airbrush but it is too much paint by the numbers looking and not softly blended from one color to the next. As with any "deer guy" or "fish guy" you don't get a mount from someone with the experience necessary. Caveat emptor, let the buyer beware. The satisfaction of a cheap price is long gone while the disappointment of a poor mount remains.
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Re: New Mount

Postby AKWoody » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:36 pm

I want to place some emphasis on some things that waterfowler said. He is right that most people just would say "nice mount" and move on. But the most important thing he said was that "the satisfaction of a cheap price is long gone while the disappointment of a poor mount remains". This is soooooooo true, and I am speaking from experience.

Several years ago I shot a black duck that I wanted to get mounted. My buddy recommended that we take it to the guy that had done hos fish and deer for him. My 1st mistake was not asking to see any of his previous ducks. Mistake #2 was looking for a cheap taxidermist. Like to old adage, I got what I paid for. BUT, most importantly was mistake #3 and that was not telling him how dissatisfied I was with the mount.

So, now that I have learned a relatively expensive lesson, I only take my birds to the only taxidermist in Alaska that does just birds. His work is fantastic, but his turnaround time is horrific. I knew this going in. Prior to me dropping off any birds there, I drove out, had a cup of coffee with the guy and talked about his work. He showed me his work, including some mounts in his personal collection. He also gave me a list of ten different references to call or go visit as they were all local. What has resulted is a very satisfied customer and a partnership with my retriever club.

My advice would be to take the wood duck back to the shop and tell the guy why you don't like it. See what he offers up. If nothing is offered, politely leave and chalk this one up to a life lesson. Having learned the same lesson, it only stings for a little bit, plus gives you motivation to go shoot another one!!
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Re: New Mount

Postby duxrus » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:16 pm

"My advice would be to take the wood duck back to the shop and tell the guy why you don't like it. See what he offers up. If nothing is offered, politely leave and chalk this one up to a life lesson. Having learned the same lesson, it only stings for a little bit, plus gives you motivation to go shoot another one!!"

I will have to politely disagree with that. Once you walk out of the taxidermist's door then you have accepted it and case is closed. If you don't like something then you need to deal with it at their shop "before" paying. As far as "see what he offers up", unless it would be some money back (and once you accepted it there should be no partial or full refund IMO), you wouldn't be gaining anything. Any discount on future work would only be discounting work you wouldn't be happy with anyway . Too many people feel obligated for something back from someone who did their best. It falls back on you not doing your homework and knowing what their best looks like....

I could mount a deer for you tomorrow and do my very best with visions of grandeur. Then we both would be at fought when the project crashed and burned with a horrible monstrosity being created. I shouldn't take in work I can't do well and you should know that I don't have a clue as to mounting a deer. Just because someone is good in one area of taxidermy means absolutely nothing when it comes to something else :beer:
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Re: New Mount

Postby The Waterfowler » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:44 am

Right Brian, like driving a new car off the lot with a dent in it already. Some of the fault rests on you for accepting it. In any business the customer should make his feelings known before payment and not after the fact or down the road later. We live in the taxidermy age of specialists and taking a duck to a deer guy or fish guy is as much your fault as his. That's the reason I won't even think about mounting a deer or fish. Theoretically I know how, but know what a train wreck it would be in the end. Do your homework and pick the taxidermy specialists that is right for your trophy.
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Re: New Mount

Postby cootlover » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:06 am

It's about time someone told the truth I see a lot of crap on this site. Don't feel bad it's no different than the rest of this screwed up world we live in "for goodness sake don't hurt anyone's feelings" :clapping:
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Re: New Mount

Postby blackrock » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:11 am

I agree with posts above. If you're going to get a bird mounted you really need to spend a few minutes and shop around. It's not too tough in this day and age. One of the best is a sponsor on this site, and only does birds. Our mounts are nothing short of spectacular! You really can't expect to get a lifelike world class mount for $80 from your buddies buddy. After all we spend on waterfowl hunting, spending a little more time and cash to get the right guy to do your mount is only wise. The whole point of getting a bird mounted is to relive the memory of the hunt, and looking back at a stunning recreation is going to feel a lot better than one you have regrets over.
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Re: New Mount

Postby MasonG » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:00 pm

I agree this mount has several issues. But I'd also like to say that if you think a "deer guy" can't do a good bird mount, you are wrong. If you truly have a great taxidermist, chances are he can do a variety of different things. It's up to the customer to make sure the taxidermist is right for them. All I'm trying to say is don't think you have to use a bird-only taxidermist.
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Re: New Mount

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Re: New Mount

Postby duxrus » Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:04 pm

I don't think anyone said that a "deer guy" defenitely couldn't turn out a great duck but if I have a clogged pipe I wouldn't call an electrician :nana: As with anything, every person will tend to do one thing better than another so odds are that someone who does an occasional bird compared to another who does hundreds a year and focuses on them would be the better choice. Not to say there aren't a few talented taxidermists who are great at everything but from what I have seen they are few and far between.

I think we all agree no matter who is picked YOU need to see their work and decide if that is the quality YOU desire. Hearsay will bite you in the arse some times since there are varying degrees of "great" when it comes to getting a lifelike bird for the wall compared to simply a ball of feathers on a piece of wood. Ever been on a blind date where "cute" left a lot to be desired :tongue:
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