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whats your best call ever??

Postby scastle » Tue May 17, 2011 4:21 pm

best goose call made under 200?
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby diesel79 » Tue May 17, 2011 6:00 pm

My personal favorite is my Bocote GK Canuck withe the Wade Walling broke in guts.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby ColoradoGooser » Tue May 17, 2011 8:22 pm

Pretty hard pressed to beat a hedge GK Giant Slayer. :bow:
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby tripleb » Wed May 18, 2011 7:06 am

My best calls have been my 3 C&S Apostles. They are all slightly different lengths, so while similar, they don't play exactly the same way. But, they are fast, loud, require little air to run, sound like real geese and they grab the attention of geese. Since I got them after this past goose season, I haven't had a chance to try them in hunting conditions, but the park geese come flying, or more often, swimming toward me when I run one a bit. And, while they show only mild interest in deeper sounding goose calls, their heads snap to attention when I crank off a couple notes on one of the Apostles. The only real problem with them is that being short calls (about 4" long), they require you to have, or to develop, good hands in operating them. A movement of as little as 1/8" of one finger can change the pitch of a note. But, if you are willing to practice, rather than picking it up 2 weeks before the season starts, they ought to make a great hunting call.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby TomKat » Wed May 18, 2011 7:08 am

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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Fowl-Attitude » Wed May 18, 2011 7:57 am

Gander Valley Calls has a new call that has blown my mind!! The Triple-X is a goose killing machine with all sorts of attitude. It is a shorter call and has speed that I crave...while maintaining a Sweet natural sound that will rival any big honker on the lake. I enjoy the entire line up they offer but this call is hard to put down.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Bgold » Wed May 18, 2011 9:05 pm

The best call I ever had was a “walking 10 feet away from the gun to take a piss” call. followed closely by my “ moving the decoys with the gun on shore” both have been extremely effective...
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Marcus Riley » Thu May 19, 2011 9:59 am

A Hedge Gander Valley PCS is real tough on them late season honkers, if I had to pick only one this would most likely be it.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby C-Hawk19 » Thu May 19, 2011 12:59 pm

Right now it is my C&S disciple but I have a GK COC in the mail that might change that.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby tripleb » Thu May 19, 2011 1:11 pm

C-Hawk19 wrote:Right now it is my C&S disciple but I have a GK COC in the mail that might change that.


You ought to consider picking up one of Mike's Apostles. I have 2 Disciples and while they are very good, the Apostles are faster, require less air to run, louder and sound great. Mike has a polycarb version for $45, shipped. I use clucker guts in each of the 3 of mine, with the E3 reed. The narrow end runs the easiest and breaks in fastest. The wide end is the loudest. The local geese respond very well to it.

Here's a link to a thread on the polycarb Apostle.

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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby NEgander81 » Fri May 20, 2011 6:20 pm

This...... :thumbsup:
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With these in it...... :hammer:
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby NEgander81 » Fri May 20, 2011 6:24 pm

tripleb wrote:I use clucker guts in each of the 3 of mine

So, when you say "clucker guts", are you using true cluckers, or are you running something else, and referring to them as cluckers?
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Trevor Shannahan » Fri May 20, 2011 9:14 pm

NEgander81 wrote:
tripleb wrote:I use clucker guts in each of the 3 of mine

So, when you say "clucker guts", are you using true cluckers, or are you running something else, and referring to them as cluckers?

Pretty sure he uses the clucker version from webfoot. But I can attest to the fact that real cluckers run very well in the apostle.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby tripleb » Sat May 21, 2011 9:54 am

Trevor Shannahan wrote:
NEgander81 wrote:
tripleb wrote:I use clucker guts in each of the 3 of mine

So, when you say "clucker guts", are you using true cluckers, or are you running something else, and referring to them as cluckers?

Pretty sure he uses the clucker version from webfoot. But I can attest to the fact that real cluckers run very well in the apostle.


That's correct, I run the clucker (SR03) set from WEBFoot Custom Calls. I don't think I've ever seen the original K&H cluckers. I understand the one WEBFoot sells are close, but there are some small dimensional differences from the originals ..... at least that's what I believe I read in a sticky thread on the Fuge on short reed tuning. Wade Walling said that the problem with the "originals" if you can find them is that the current standard clucker reed is not a fit and you may have to sort through 10 sets of guts to find 1 good set.

This is how they're described on the site:

"These short reed call guts are top quality and work very well most call dimensions. These guts are a replica of the K&H Clucker guts with a slightly larger tone channel, molded with higher quality plastic resins, and the Mylar used for making the reed is also of higher quality, resulting in a super sounding and longer lasting call. SR-3 guts fit a .617" to .620" bore."
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Trevor Shannahan » Sat May 21, 2011 1:27 pm

I have a few good sets of the original cluckers and they are still better than any stock gut out there IMO. X-factors are the only ones close
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby tripleb » Sun May 22, 2011 8:53 am

Trevor Shannahan wrote:I have a few good sets of the original cluckers and they are still better than any stock gut out there IMO. X-factors are the only ones close


I've had mixed results with Xfactor guts in my calls. I only bought two sets, so I don't know if what I received was standard. One was well formed from the mold. The other had a "lip" which overhung the back of the tone channel. I had to trim it off before using. It kept catching the reed tip, with as close as I like to set them up. It worked well in a poly carb Supermag and in the shortened Grounds Guides Best Flute. But in the shortened flute, only with the SR01 wedge, with step on the front end of the wedge to press down the reed closer to the tone board. I never tried it in my longer calls. Edge guts with either the wide end of the E4 reed or the narrow end of the E4 reed, worked well in them. The SR03 guts sold by WEBFoot Custom Calls seem very consistent in the quality of their molding. Using the narrow end of the E3 reed will allow a good buzz, initially, but as the tone board breaks in, the "buzz" seems to diminish. Giving the reed tip a very slight upward bend helps restore the "buzz". In the one Apostle, I used the wide end of the E3 reed, the call has maintained it's "buzz" for quite some time and I haven't had to bend the reed tip up on it.

Just a thought ..... I've noticed on several different types of guts, when using the narrow end of the E3 reed, if the reed is just slightly off center of the tone channel, the call will have quite a bit of "buzz". But, as the tone board wears in, the "buzz" diminishes. I suspect that the "buzz" may be caused by the reed flexing, or twisting, from side to side, and as the surface of the tone board becomes uniform on both sides from use, the flexing/twisting of the reed diminishes ... as will the "buzz" it generates.

One nice thing about the Xfactor guts is that they seem to produce a good, goosey "buzz" in the call if it works in that call.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Trevor Shannahan » Mon May 23, 2011 12:45 pm

See I don't like buzz in a call. I want it clean. That way if I want buzz in a note I can put it there, but it isn't in there when I don't want it to be.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby tripleb » Mon May 23, 2011 1:26 pm

Trevor Shannahan wrote:See I don't like buzz in a call. I want it clean. That way if I want buzz in a note I can put it there, but it isn't in there when I don't want it to be.


One issue with "buzz" in a call I have noticed is that it seems to be coupled with a loss of efficiency in air usage. If I use "voice" to get, or to increase the amount of "buzz", which I normally do unless running the call as fast as possible, I can't get as many notes on a breath as I can if I run it clean. But, to my ear, it just seems to add some realism to the notes. However, I can't hear the "buzz" in echos from house across the street unless the call and I are generating it strongly. I don't know if it's an issue with the reflective surface of the house, or whether the "buzz" sound simply does not travel well through the air. I get good, strong echos of the notes, but the buzz doesn't seem to travel well. I wonder how far away the geese would have to be before they couldn't hear it?
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Trevor Shannahan » Mon May 23, 2011 2:17 pm

tripleb wrote:
Trevor Shannahan wrote:See I don't like buzz in a call. I want it clean. That way if I want buzz in a note I can put it there, but it isn't in there when I don't want it to be.


One issue with "buzz" in a call I have noticed is that it seems to be coupled with a loss of efficiency in air usage. If I use "voice" to get, or to increase the amount of "buzz", which I normally do unless running the call as fast as possible, I can't get as many notes on a breath as I can if I run it clean. But, to my ear, it just seems to add some realism to the notes. However, I can't hear the "buzz" in echos from house across the street unless the call and I are generating it strongly. I don't know if it's an issue with the reflective surface of the house, or whether the "buzz" sound simply does not travel well through the air. I get good, strong echos of the notes, but the buzz doesn't seem to travel well. I wonder how far away the geese would have to be before they couldn't hear it?

I never run clean air into a call, I always have voice in it, it just depends on how much voice I put in it. Just blowing straight air will result in a tinny flat sounding call. When I listen to geese the only notes I hear buzz in are trains, honks, and some moans. The majority of what they do, clucks even though they are more like a quick spit, are very clean sounding.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby tripleb » Mon May 23, 2011 2:27 pm

Trevor Shannahan wrote:
tripleb wrote:
Trevor Shannahan wrote:See I don't like buzz in a call. I want it clean. That way if I want buzz in a note I can put it there, but it isn't in there when I don't want it to be.


One issue with "buzz" in a call I have noticed is that it seems to be coupled with a loss of efficiency in air usage. If I use "voice" to get, or to increase the amount of "buzz", which I normally do unless running the call as fast as possible, I can't get as many notes on a breath as I can if I run it clean. But, to my ear, it just seems to add some realism to the notes. However, I can't hear the "buzz" in echos from house across the street unless the call and I are generating it strongly. I don't know if it's an issue with the reflective surface of the house, or whether the "buzz" sound simply does not travel well through the air. I get good, strong echos of the notes, but the buzz doesn't seem to travel well. I wonder how far away the geese would have to be before they couldn't hear it?

I never run clean air into a call, I always have voice in it, it just depends on how much voice I put in it. Just blowing straight air will result in a tinny flat sounding call. When I listen to geese the only notes I hear buzz in are trains, honks, and some moans. The majority of what they do, clucks even though they are more like a quick spit, are very clean sounding.


Before they took off to somewhere unknown with their babies, I used to call to several pairs of geese on a local park pond of 80 acres, or more, in size. Usually, they'd come swimming up to me as I ran the call quietly. I noticed they seemed particularly interested in low volume buzz clucks I'd make on the call, occasionally making similar sounds themselves. I never tried that combination out in the field to see if it held any particular attraction to geese. However, quick spit moans and hiccups seemed to work .... but I was making those notes considerably louder than the buzz clucks I was using with the park geese. Have you ever tried low volume buzz clucks while hunting? If so, how did the geese react to them?

Also, another fellow asked a question about your "fuse guts". I didn't see them on your website. What are the features of them .... What calls have you tried in which they worked well and what calls didn't they work well in? Also, price?
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Trevor Shannahan » Mon May 23, 2011 7:43 pm

Yup I've un buzz clucks in the field before, not a big usage note for me as it didn't do anything special and I have other stuff that works better and is easier to do.

The Fuse guts are my design I molded off of a wood set that I made. They are $5 shipped. They have run well in every call I have tried them in except a Shore Thing, they just took too little air to run in that call.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby Bgold » Mon May 23, 2011 7:45 pm

I still say the best call ever is setting the gun down 10 yards away and whipping “it” out to take a piss.
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby tripleb » Wed May 25, 2011 7:45 am

Trevor Shannahan wrote:Yup I've un buzz clucks in the field before, not a big usage note for me as it didn't do anything special and I have other stuff that works better and is easier to do.

The Fuse guts are my design I molded off of a wood set that I made. They are $5 shipped. They have run well in every call I have tried them in except a Shore Thing, they just took too little air to run in that call.


I'd like to get a couple sets to try. Do I make the MO payable to you or to Black Timber Calls?
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Re: whats your best call ever??

Postby goosewhisperer » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:55 pm

The best call I have ever used is a Toxic XTX and close second is my Lynch Mob Stage Reaper.
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