Is Baiting deer ethical or just a part of hunting?

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Is Baiting deer ethical or just a part of hunting?

Postby yellodog1 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:53 pm

Do you bait deer? If so with what? And is it ethical ?
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Postby dukkilr6 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:57 pm

First off the ethical question is up to you. Can you live with yourself knowing that you basically gave the deer no chance. Just do your homework and pattern the deer. Maybe just find a spot where they feed naturally such as a corn field. I bait bear but not deer. for one its illegal in MN and second I dont think its necissary. I do believe it is the best way to kill bears knowing that they are much harder to pattern than deer. I must say it takes some of the fun out of bear hunting knowing that the bear will come in at a certain time but they are wild animals and dont always repeat their routine.

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Postby yellodog1 » Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:31 pm

In vermont baiting bears is inlawful and has been for as long as I can remember. Than again our bear population isnt the highest in the country.
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Postby Smackaduck » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:04 pm

Shooting an animal over bait is like shootin a cow comin to feed, however i love beef so whatever needs to be done to put meat in the freezer. :toofunny:
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Postby Greg Wile » Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:36 am

:withstupid: I have never hunted deer over bait but that is just me. It ups the odds in your favor and if you get does coming in then the bucks will follow.
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Postby txnhunter » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:30 pm

in texas everybody uses feeders. they go off at a certain time and like 20 deer will all move in. basically huntin is like goin to the grocery store which backstrap do you want. that to me isnt that fun but sometimes throwin a little pile of corn on the ground isnt that bad.
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Postby Admin2 » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:31 pm

Alls I'll say of the subject is this, the Feds will not allow baiting for ducks and geese, so you know it is effective. Some states allow it for deer, where as others do not.


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Postby kiwismakebetterhunters » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:54 am

No one here baits for deer yet most hunters I know bait for ducks.
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Postby mallardman77 » Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:35 pm

Baiting deer is illegal in Manitoba and I would not do it if it were legal. I feel baiting with food is highly unethical. Baiting for bear is a very common practice here and one of the reasons I haven't persued bear hunting. Half the fun of deer hunting is going out to the woods and just walking, looking for deer sign and finding that perfect spot to set up at. Just my $0.02



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Postby poacher » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:15 pm

Hows this for baiting deer...The Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources Manages the deer populations in the provincial parks. There are a few parks that are with in urban areas, Rondeau, on Lake Erie, and Pinery, north of Sarnia on Lake Huron. They have a cull whenever the population gets out of hand. The cull is open to the local indian tribes. The entry requirement is simple, be of First Nations decent, and hit a pie plate at 50 yards. The feds drive around in a chum wagon ringing a bell, the deer come flying out of the bush by the hundreds to get their meal and whammo, shot by the firing squad. The meat goes to the families and to homeless shelters in Toronto. I had the opportunity to participate a few years ago, quite the experience.
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Postby gsphunter » Tue Nov 15, 2005 12:37 pm

I personally do not bait for deer because I just don't want to, and it is illegal in MO. My question though is this: What is the difference of planting a 50 x 50 yard food plot (corn, beans, alfalfa, oats, you name it) and putting corn in a bucket. Same exact thing, but nobody gets wound up about this.

People have always used attractants to make hunting easier, whether it's decoys, scent attractants, calling, food, or water. It's just another way of hunting in my opinion, but like I said I don't two it for two reasons.

Also asking if something is ethical or not is up to one person, and that is you. Ethics is all about what you believe. If no one is around, and there is no chance of getting caught doing something, would you still do it.
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Postby Fowlercon » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:47 am

Hmmm, tough question. Here in Kentucky, namely Jefferson County, the deer situation has evolved into more of a nuisance problem. That being said the local powers that be have deemed a unlimited doe harvest policy. In Jefferson County, if I bought the required bonus tags or felt the inclination, I could harvest a hundred doe's if I wanted to. We hunt approximately 600 acres of mixed woods and fields. We have acres and acres of various plantings for all the wildlife on our property including deer. BTW, baiting for deer is legal in Kentucky. Sometimes various members of our hunting party, including myself, have been known to put out and hunt over the product Deer Cocain. We havest between 25 to 35 doe's per season via bow, muzzle loader and rifle. One year we had a hadicaped gentleman take one with a cross-bow. 90% of all our deer harvest gets donated to a local charity called Hunter's for the Hungry. Unethical......I don't think so. I will add that we have a "outside the ears" policy regarding bucks. I have been hunting this particular piece of land for 8 years and have never harvested a buck. Not that I haven't had the chance, I'm just a bit more discerning than just wanting to get a rack on the wall. I have passed on numerous 130 to 135 inch deer. Frankly I don't want to even bother shooting a buck unless it is in the 140 class. What I'm getting at is all this "baiting" we are doing has not really aided the harevest of trophy deer. There have been around seven 130 class plus deer taken off our land in the past 8 years. We have been "baiting" every year since inception. I'll also add that we have somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 hang on stands scattered throughout the property along with every hunter having his own climbing stand. So coverage is not an issue.

Soon, when food is not so readily avaliable we will fill our 4 Moultry Feeders regularly along with 6 some odd gravity feeders to ensure success of the herd through the winter. The way we manage the deer herd is probably second only to some big name outfitter type place. We take care of our animals on a scientific basis thereby managing the herd with precision. You would be hard pressed to find a healthier buck to doe ratio.

GSPhunter opinion hit the nail on the head......................educate yourselves on the facts then form your opinion based on your own constitution, not the next guy who tells you your wrong.

I conclude with this; I am a bow hunter through and through. While I have taken many deer with muzzle loaders and rifles, nothing gets me going like drawing on a mature whitetail doe. I have seen many a buck come through my hunting area and I will get away with more mistakes with them than I will any mature doe. They are one of, if not the most wiley creature in the woods. Guys, they are just as hard to arrow when they are licking on a salt block as they are just ambling through the woods.
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Postby kiwismakebetterhunters » Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:15 pm

If it gets meat on the table, the hunter enjoys it and its not breaking any laws whats wrong with it?
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Postby C_DUbb » Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:01 am

So why cant you call food plots bait. That is the sole intended purpose of planting that little crop of X.

The only difference is that a crop grows all year and you dont have to go back and put more out ther each week or what ever is needed.

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