Tapered hull for long-range shooting

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Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby 3200 man » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:03 pm

It's always fun to see what fellas load ,for long range shooting in a 12 ga lead load ?

With powders being Long-shot ,Herco,800X with , what ever shot size you choose to work at 70 yds plus .

any recipes out there ?
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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby Force Fetch » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:04 am

3200, I don't reload for long range, but my suggestion is to try and duplicat the Winchester International Pigeon load. That is what I shoot for clays.
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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby 3200 man » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:03 pm

I have used them along with Fiochi Live bird 3 3/4 gram nickle 7's . I load something better for long clay targets though !

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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby Sagebrush » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:12 pm

For long distance field loads I first start off with a 2 3/4' Federal Gold Medal so I know that I have a top end load.
Win and Rem etc are for trap and skeet loads for me, sort of a color code.......... in case the shells get mixed up.

In the old days when you could use lead for ducks I had a 1 1/2 oz. load of #4's at 1330 fps that kicked like a mule but
reached to the moon with lots of Blue Dot................now I take it easy on my old shoulder and just shoot 1 1/4 oz. of
#6 field loads at 1220 fps and it is a lot easier on the body and still kills game at long distances, with Unique powder.

If inside 50 yards 1 1/8 oz. is plenty with 7 1/2's if you have the right choke and your lead is correct and either 700x, RedDot
or any other fast powder at 10,500 psi or less.

True the Federal is not a tapered hull but it is my go to "Magnum" hull........ if I had to, the Rem STS would be my 2nd choice.
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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby 3200 man » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:16 am

Have you tried the Cheddite hull from France , that the Estates are loaded in ? They make a nice long range load with
the volume that FGM's have ? I've been using the Blue Rio hulls , with good success so , between those 2 hulls , shooting
out past 65 yds at a clay target is getting easier . OH yea ! it takes extra time to condition these hull but , the advantages
are great !

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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby Sagebrush » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:12 am

If the hull does not accept a w209 or f209a it is not in my reloading room, so that leaves out the Rio.......
plus I hate a 6 crimp hull ! Nothing worse than having to change over a loader for a different style hull.

The Estate takes more powder than the Fed GM, so it is 4th on my reloading list.................but
I will load it for a field throw away and save my WinAA and Rem STS for trap etc.

I will shoot factory Rio's but I don't pick them up.
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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby 3200 man » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:17 am

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Try those Estate (Ched) hulls with steel shot , it's a winner for me ! I use the Ched primer so , everything is good with
a VP 65 or BP 32 .

As far as the Rio's , I use a primer pocket conditioner with Ched primers , it makes a good big payload shell .

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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby Sagebrush » Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:15 am

Are those Estate (Ched) red, paper base hulls the standard box hulls, in the tan and red box or a new design ?
Made in MN, USA ?
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Re: Tapered hull for long-range shooting

Postby 3200 man » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:19 pm

They are the Estates that come in the white box , it says in big red letters Target and Dove loads . They are Ched hulls
as they have 4 stars in between 4 12's , they are made by Noble in France , for Estate/Federal . The brass head is 1/4" tall
and they have a short plastic base/wad .

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