.30-06 vs .308

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Re: .30-06 vs .308

Postby lostknife4 » Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:58 pm

My first rifle was a Win70 in 30-06 in 1958. 4064 powder, Nosler 165 Partitions for everything from seal to deer to bear to Moose ditto my 270 Win 70 130 gr nosler partitions, 4831 powder for everything. Lost
"It's not the game but the chase ~ not the trophy but the race !" from my Dad, many years ago.
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Re: .30-06 vs .308

Postby Sagebrush » Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:09 pm

for a minuite there I thought you lost your rifle !! Cut that out................

I can get a 140gr in my winchester to crawl out of my barrel at 2990 fps with imr 4831.
Nosler accubond at 400 yards has 1500 ft/lbs of energy, plenty for taking Elk, with only 2900 fps,
about 30-50fps slower than the Rem or Winchester factory ammo.
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Re: .30-06 vs .308

Postby ajmorell » Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:25 am

Sagebrush wrote:for a minuite there I thought you lost your rifle !! Cut that out................

I can get a 140gr in my winchester to crawl out of my barrel at 2990 fps with imr 4831.
Nosler accubond at 400 yards has 1500 ft/lbs of energy, plenty for taking Elk, with only 2900 fps,
about 30-50fps slower than the Rem or Winchester factory ammo.


How do those Accubonds shoot for you? I tried working with them quite a bit (different powders, primers, OALs, etc) and never got a load to shoot under an inch.
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Re: .30-06 vs .308

Postby Sagebrush » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:48 am

I shot the 60 nosler in my 22-250 and the 140 in my 270 and the bullet is a killer but for some reason they both
about twice the size groups as my best "Groupers".
Two inch groups at 200 is not bad but I would hate to try a 300 yard neck shot,if you know what I mean.

The ballistic tips are better in accuracy but are just like a sierra design, with a thin copper jacket. I had good accuraty with the regular Nosler partition 130gr with max grs of 4350 and reg cci primer with 4 @ .91 at 100 yards back in 11/20/91. For some weird reason, my rifle likes bullets at their max or at target velositys. A 130gr at 2600 or 3100+ and the 140 at 2710 or 2990fps.

My 30-06 shoots rem CPX3 rated 150 Cor-Lock; fac dup imr 4350 load had good results,crimped at 3.19 inch O/A with
4@ 1.05 and on 9/27/09 3 @ .38 at 100 yards. BC of only .338 but it works. Never tried these bullets in the 270......
never know, might be a pleasant surprise ? I do know that some non-boattail bullets will shoot just that the BT load ,so much easier !!
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Re: .30-06 vs .308

Postby ajmorell » Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:22 am

Yeah, I may work with them some more this coming year. I haven't shot much since moving back in Jan. I just picked up some 168grain Barnes TTSX last night and if I can get them to shoot good they will probably replace the 165 Speer SPBT's I'm shooting now. I found that my -06 likes the faster velocites too, I think my pet load for the Speers is ~47 grains of 4064 with a Fed large rifle primer in a Winchester case with an OAL of 3.300", last time I shot them I was shooting ~0.35" at 100yds for 3 shots
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