Best first rifle

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Best first rifle

Postby viper3173 » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:11 pm

Im looking to buy a low priced rifle for my first rifle. I've had a shotgun but really want to get into some big game and need a good gun but dont have much to spend. Will most likely be only hunting whitetail and boar for the most part. I was thinking something around a 270.

What do you recommend? Bore size? Make?
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Postby Cobra » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:11 pm

Savage, accurate right out of the box.
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Postby fowl_wishes » Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:42 am

I agree with Cobra. The best dealis to get one of the packages from Savage. You can get the gun with a half-way decent scope and a good trigger (the new accu-trigger) for a lot cheaper than other rifles. The gun will also shoot just as well if not better than most others.

But if you are REALLY strapped for cash, you coudl step back and get a stevens rifle. to my knowledge it is the same gun as the savae without the accu-trigger. It makes the trigger a little rough, but once ya get used to it the gun is very accurate.

as for caliber of gun, that is really your decision. you have to decide on how long your shots will normally be, the size of the game you are hunting, the weight of the gun, short action/long action, amount of recoil you can stand, etc.

but my first guess for a good all around caliber is always a .308 or a 30-06. they are time proven and will always work!
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Postby jjohnson_714 » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:20 am

also if you are strapped for cash you could consider a mossberg ATR. they are around $350 for the rifle and a scope. if you are not strapped for cash i'd go with a browning a-bolt. but that's just me
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Postby bgoldhunter » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:00 pm

Savage! Great guns out of the box, and they get even better with a few hundred rounds through them. You get a 270 and want to swap out for something later, it is a simple barrel (and even boltface if you want) swap and you have something new for little cash outlay. I have several Savage rifles, and just keep buying them.

Ditto on the Stevens if ya want to go a little cheaper. You can work on the trigger and get it decent or go to a SSS trigger down the road (money WELL spent). They also make a great basis for a build if you want to later on.

They probably won't shoot any better (and sometimes worse), but a Model 70 or 700 wouldn't be a bad buy either. I have a soft spot for the M70 in a hunting rifle, but just can't bring myself to buy more since my Savages shoot so well (and prices are pretty high for them right now).

The base 700s (SPS, ADL, BDL) aren't too bad, but accuracy has been known to be suspect lately. The upper models (VS, P, LTR, etc) are nice and accurate out of the box. The only 700 I have anymore is an LTR in 308 on a McMillan A5 stock. Try to buy one without a J lock if possible. The 700 is the small block Chevy of rifles, and you can pretty much do anything you want with one if you want to customize yours later on.

Lastly, I like your choice in 270. It is one of my favorite whitetail rounds, and I wouldn't hesitate to take anything with it that I would take with a 30-06. It's a nice argument when I see my dad, as he is a die hard 06 fan.
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Postby yellowlab » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:27 pm

even if not for the money savage will make the best shooting gun under $800-$900

might not look pretty but a deer wont be able to tell between the two...
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Postby viper3173 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:17 pm

how about a Winchester Model 70 .300 mag with a Simmons 3x10x44 scope for my first rifle? any opinions?
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Postby CDUX » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:46 pm

My 1st rifle was a NEF Handi in 30-06 when I was 18, paid $150 new and put a 40 dollar bushnell 3-9 scope on it. I loved that gun, trigger was rock hard but I did some real damge w/ that thing. Took me 12 years to buy another gun. Dropped nearly a grand on a new BLR in 308 last season topped off w/ a nice Leupold.


As much as I like that flashy Browning, I can't help but think that money would have been better spent getting 9 different barrels for the NEF. For hundred bucks you put almost anything on it from .17 to 45-70, not to mention shotgun and BP.
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Postby Sagebrush » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:39 pm

Just one thought.....

The old 30-06 lets you shoot a 55gr bullet all the way to a
220 grain "Monster" getter !!

If you reload...........lots of ways to go.
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Postby HappyHawk » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:07 am

For a first rifle - I would also consider a 25-06. Slowly becoming a hot choice with the guys I hunt with...smooth as a .22!
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Postby Benelli King1 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:47 pm

If i were going to buy a rifle for some one first, i would buy the Remington Model 700 calibered in 7mm-08 great gun, for starters.
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Postby DJH1 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:12 pm

Benelli King1 wrote:If i were going to buy a rifle for some one first, i would buy the Remington Model 700 calibered in 7mm-08 great gun, for starters.


I agree totally with this except one thing, I'd take the model seven over the 700. Just seems to be a little bit handier gun to me.
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Postby skybuster20ga » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:12 pm

modle 7 cdl in a 300 rsum or 350 mag
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Postby Anser albifrons » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:16 pm

HappyHawk wrote:For a first rifle - I would also consider a 25-06. Slowly becoming a hot choice with the guys I hunt with...smooth as a .22!


i agree. i have a ruger m77 mark II chambered in 25-06 and love it. i am shooting 115 gr winchester supreme ballistic silvertips.
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Postby Rdneckhnter09 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:56 pm

go get ya an old remi 700 in 270 cal, then put a 3*9*40 on it and shoot 130-150gr bullets, sight it in at 1" high at 50yrds that'll put it dead on at 100 and 1" low at 200 so on and so forth, lets just put it this way, if i can see the deer around here i can hit him
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Postby patkane » Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:10 pm

my first was an bushmaster ar .223 semi auto with a 30 round clip not cheap but u cant buy a gun more fun then that. and nothing gets away. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :thumbsup:
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Postby BAYOU_BOY » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:30 pm

I have a NEF Single shot....Its a 270 came with a bushnell sharpshooter scope.......Dead on out of the box....Great gun....also have a REM. model 710 u may hear diff but i have one and a few family members have them also.....and there great GUNS .....bolt action and also come with a bushnell sharp shooter scope....But the most Important thing is what fits you the best
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Postby skybuster20ga » Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:59 pm

due redneck yer a kid, sounds of it if you can see a deer and there a rock handy you can kill it, although i do agree w/ you on the remington 700. good gun. ide chose the 30-06 over the 270 cuz of the load choices. and i never liked a 3x9 i like a 2x7. git er done
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Postby Shredder » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:00 am

do yourself a favor and get a 300 mag, if you want a cheap on that have remingtons at walmart for around 300 buck if you want a nice one get a howa or something...if you get a 300 it will be your first and last deer rifle. i looooooove mine
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Postby fowl_wishes » Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:50 am

The 300 Mag is beyond overkill for a deer. :eek:
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Postby jdeere06 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:21 am

For me 270 is not good unless you are makeing long shots 200to 300 yards. I'd rather have a 25 06 killed deer hogs coyots anywhere from 50yards out 200 yards. 270 just punches holes if your set on it get litest bullets you can find mabe even hand load 110 grain.
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Postby skybuster20ga » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:05 am

you would never carry that long crowbar around these thick deer woods. ide use your rifle thee for a walkinstick and the side arm to kill game :hammer:
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Postby Shredder » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:46 am

well i used that 300 up here in the upper peninsula of michigan and i dont know if youve ever been up here but it doesnt get much thicker than this...and as for over kill for deer. you maybe be right if you looking at all the smaller calibers you could be using. but whats wrong with it. the deer up here push 250-300lbs sometimes they are monsters. but if you shoot deer BEHIND the front shoulders what meat are you going to ruin...unless you eat the hear or lungs you will ruin nothing. i have never had a deer take a step after that gun went off...you can get fmj rounds for coyote hunting and stuff or the gun is big enough to kill bear, moose, elk, anything basically in the US.

oh and if you dont want to ruin ANY meat... go for the head shot vvv
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Postby muddydog » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:59 pm

Get a Savage in a 30.06! You wont be dissappointed! Ive owned just about every caliber from every maker and its my gun of choice! Its just hard to beat unless you buy for looks and it really isnt that ugly!
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Postby bgoldhunter » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:15 am

While I like the 300, and own them in WM and WSM, I wouldn't reccomend one for a first gun. For one that doesn't shoot much, the recoil could lead to some bad habits.

If you really want one, I would get something a bit smaller and shoot it a lot. That can help you work up to a 300 without establishing habits that will hurt your shooting. I'll average 50-100 rounds when shooting one at the range, but wouldn't reccomend a newbie to do it.

Also, I've used my 270 to take game from 50 yards on out, all using a 130gr Nosler Ballistic Tip with no problems whatsoever. It is a combination of bullet construction and weight that defines what it does when it hits game. I would be on the side that says construction is more important.

The 25-06 is a very good caliber, though. I would agree that it would also make a very good choice for deer sized game and smaller.
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