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30 carbine for deer hunting

Postby msdawkins » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:59 pm

any body ever had any experience using a 30 carbine for deer hunting?
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Postby Major Woods » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:22 pm

I know a guy that uses one (family heirloom) and he has taken a couple with it.
It has enough energy to do the job at short typical Connecticut distances.
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Postby Sagebrush » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:35 pm

The GI issue ammo was not designed for hunting deer, but to
wound men in the field or to kill if an organ or head shot happened.

Solids are not the way to go, but a reloader can place a bullet
that will penetrate and mushroom for game animals.

Speer has a 100 grain jacket with a lead nose that will work for the lightest bullet.

Since the energy is minimal and the accuracy nill, please try for shots inside of 100 yards, for humane kills.
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Postby waterfowlhunter » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:15 am

:thumbsdown:

not enough energy to make a fast humane kill IMO.
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Postby Sagebrush » Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:54 pm

Well, with ALL those bullets in that clip, it MIGHT happen ??

I did not say it is the way to hunt deer, just that if it was the only
weapon you had..........................to survive................. ??

Same with the little .22 rifle..............back in the early 1800's. :eek:
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Postby msmall » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:46 pm

My son used a WW II era M-1 carbine to shoot his first wild boar with. I hand loaded 110 gr HP, wouldn't recommend using FMJ's for anything other than plinking and varmint hunting. He killed a 250 lb boar with one shot. The key was accurate shot placement, drilled him thru the heart. If you cant hand load then buy some 110 gr soft points and practice, practice, practice.
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Re: 30 carbine for deer hunting

Postby Florida » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:47 pm

I know this is a really old but I have used a M1 Carbine all my life always less than 100 y good shot placement never had to shot more than two shots and never lost a deer always used hp or sp never fmj :thumbsup:
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Postby ajmorell » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:37 am

waterfowlhunter wrote::thumbsdown:

not enough energy to make a fast humane kill IMO.


bulls**t. The effective range might be limited but it certainly has enough energy to make a clean kill.
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Re: 30 carbine for deer hunting

Postby Sagebrush » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:20 pm

Factory ammo has a 110 at 1990 MV and 967 ft lbs of energy. 600 ft lbs at 100 yards.

Speer has a 100gr lead at 2240 MV and a 110 at 2131 MV giving both a M Energy of 1112 ft lbs......extra 145 ft lbs.

Not much you can do for this little cartrage at limited ranges and the low quality open sights.
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Re: 30 carbine for deer hunting

Postby MissedAgain » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:29 pm

The .30 carbine will do fine. Just limit yourself to 100 yards or less and broadside shots with soft nose expanding type bullets. Remember that most states have a magazine capacity rule - 5 or less in most areas.

It is very tiring when so many guys tell you that you need a .300 magnum to shoot a deer. The .243 caliber puts the .30 carbine to shame energy & ballistics-wise and most guys will say it isn't enough for a deer. The 1,000# of energy rule has been put to bed - most handgun cartridges are only putting 500-600# with 1,000-1,400 fps and blow all the way thru, tearing 'em up worse than a shotgun slug.

Good thing you don't have to listen to 'em.

IF you do decide that another rifle is better - an H&R single shot will run you about $275 and can be had in a multitude of calibers. A .308, 30-30, .243, or even a .44 mag would be great. The .44 is a 150 yard or less gun. The 30-30 is good for 200 yards. The .243 is good for 300 yards. The .308 is the most powerful (well over 300 yards) and doesn't kick much.

If I was to pick one of the above, it would be a 30-30. Cheap bullets - $12/box or so, 150-170 gr soft points good out to 125-150. Hornady flex tip Leverevolution is good for 200 yards. Light recoil - easy and fun to shoot.

The .308 or .44 would kick the most, depending on loads. .243 doesn't kick bad - 55-100 gr bullets (100 gr size bracket for deer).

Best of luck!
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Re: 30 carbine for deer hunting

Postby Sagebrush » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:39 am

The 1,000 ft pound rule was for those that close their eyes when they pull the trigger and the bullet ends up only close to where they were aiming and still be able to drop their game, most of the time or at least track it down.

Some times it depends on the animal, how it drops............if it is unalarmed and relaxed they drop easier than if spooked,or
know danger is around or have run a distance. However, it is shot placement , when it all boils down..............

I have seen deer shot with a arrow to the hight lung spine area that drop in their tracks vs a low heart shot, leap and run for 30 yards.

I do know for a fact that the factory ball ammo shooting up at a 35 degree angle at a rock bluff 20 stories high at 300 yards
takes three full clips to finally get close to a target, back when I was young and had good eye sight. It is a fun rifle but I was sure
glad when my father handed over to me the new rifle to hunt with........a 30-40 Krag !
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