Ive been contemplating between a few rifles. My longest shots will have to be around 500 yards or so. I dont hand load so ill have to be using factory ammo. Basically its between the 22-250, 243, and the 243 wssm., although i have read some bad reviews about the 243 wssm. Im worried about the light 22-250 bullets drifting in any wind, and the 243 not reaching that far. Sorry for the long post, and thanks for the help
For a fur gun use the 22-250 with 40gr v-max. Just dont hit them on the fringes. Excellet coyote gun. Dad made his living on furs in the late 70's and early 80's, so I've seen a lot of coyotes shot with this gun. If the long shots are what you want use any of the 6mm cartridges and the 70gr nosler Ballistic Tip. You will be amazed.
its the 22-250 that wouldnt reach that far of those 2. the 243 will take yotes alot farther than 500 yards, with authority.
any gun you pick for 500 yard shots will anniliate furs at closer ranges. a 55gr from a 243 is sweet justice for yotes out to 500-600 yards, but will leave a big entrance or exit or both at most any range.
the 40gr from the 22-250 is about the same only a bit smaller... its a firecracker and if it hits a bone, it explodes.
a big gun with a very solid, non expanding bullet is about as close to a fur save as you can get at that range. terminal power is low tho. ull have to go find them.
the 243 with 55gr blitzkings or b-tips at about 4000fps is about as good a coyote gun as there is, but you will have a pretty big mess about 1/2 -3/4 of the time
if you use a tougher bullet and load light you wont have any trouble sewing it unless you get him right in the shoulder point or the hip. a chest hit will usually just pop thru.
a 55gr at a slower speed like 3400fps wont hurt em near as bad either... you are bound to have a few explosions tho :yes:
theres a site called www.longrangehunting.com where you might find a bit more infor on shooting far out there..
I have thought about the 223, but right now im actually considering the 204. The 223 is slower than the 204 and will blow around a little bit if theirs wind. I have thought about it and i guess ill just have to work on my calling and sacrafice that extra couple hundred yards so i can save fur.
thanks for the help guys
tyler
wow i have no idea where you got those numbers as they are way off all the b/c charts i have ever looked at or can find now
and what person would shoot a 34 grain bullet at yotes even the people that shot them with 22lr are shooting 36 grain bullets. currently the only 34 grain bullets being made are midways dogtown bullets which are no more than an economy and not recommended for yotes to begin with
look at numbers when shooting 39 grain sierra or 50 grain bergers (what most would shot yotes with out of a .204)
all above are the companies top of the line varmint bullet no match bullets were included because they are not a game bullets because they often act like a fmj and have unreliable expansion as they are made to shot paper not game
of the companies looked at 60 grain was the largest varmint/hunting bullet offered and it was not even a blitzking from sierra
a higher b/c will move less in wind meaning less wind drift side to side in cross winds
according to five major bullets companies the smaller 20 cal bullets will actually drift less side to side in wind
as far as ft/lbs show me a ballistics chart with a 20 cal 39 grain sierra having less ft/lbs than a 22 cal 50 grain bullet (@ 500 yds) might be able to with a match .22 bullet i guess but as aformentioned match bullets are not for game use.
a very cheap bulk ammo. you can not put econ bullets up aginst quailty match ammo. i do think that that is by far the worse bullets on the market now when comparing it to other data i have posted. i am sure all rounds have markets loads that are well below par.
that would be like me saying:
winchester 45 grain hp bullets b/c .175 ~ m/v 4000 ~ ft/lbs @ 500yd 212
sierra 39 grain bullets b/c .287 ~ m/v 4050 ~ ft/lbs @ 500 yd 457
why would you try to twist data on a forum made to help people. a member asking for help wants data that is comparable as they are about to make a large investment
facts: normal/match grade hunting 20 cal bullets have better b/c than the normal/match grade hunting 22 cal bullets therefore will drift less in winds
the 204 and 22-250 ft/lbs are roughly equivalent at 500 yds making the 204 just a capable of a long-range varmint gun as the 250. it could also be argued that it is a better as it drifts less in wind and is a more fur friendly round for those of us hunting for fur. before i hunted yotes for fur i shot .243 which without loading your own ammo (I did not at the time) is not a fur friendly round.
And in all loads and info I have found the 223 and 22-250 hits harder at all distances than the 204. and wind drift is MUCH less with the 55gr bullet compared to the 32gr.
I use a RRA Varmint AR-15 or a 300WSM with 110gr V-max. I do not save fur so the 300 is a lot of fun and they do not run. the ar-15 is a sub MOA rifle and it great if you have multiple targets to eliminate.
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