300 vs 338

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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby 44marlin » Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:01 pm

what kurt is talking about is something i'm looking for. its a nice looking bolt action. and ill be using it from woodchucks to grizzlies.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby bgoldhunter » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:55 am

As long as you can afford to hire someone to carry it for you.
TRG-42 equipped in that manner is probably gonna run about 15 lbs all up.
Then you gotta feed it, and .338 Lapua ain't cheap to run.

For a hunting rifle, I'd run a 7WSM over all the above.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby Kurt » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:01 pm

What the .338 laupa is only about 4.00 a shot that aint so bad :biggrin:
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby bgoldhunter » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:12 pm

Well...that is cheap compared to .408CT or 50BMG, but still too rich for my blood!

I only wish I had the money and extended range to make owning one worth my while. :yes:
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby 44marlin » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:57 pm

i can live with the heaviness and the cost as long as it kills what im after.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby waterfowlhunter » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:31 am

300 WSM, Same Velocity as the 300 Win Mag, About 1/2 the recoil of a 300 Weatherby mag and Extreamly accurate. And in a more compact package. My A-bolt's have a 24" barrel and handle fantastic. With the other 2 you get a longer action, longer barrel and heaver gun overall. I have had 338's and 458's and a 325 WSM too the 300 will do anything the 338 will do in N america and shoot much flatter. Easy to reload and takes less powder than the the 300 or 338 win mags. I use Norma brass and it last thru several reloads unlike the win and federal brass which do not like my hot loads but are fine with standard loads. Every critter I have taken with it has turned to mush on the inside with my standard 180gr 2990fps loads of Silvertips and accubonds. another plus with the 300 is that you can get 125gr and 110gr varmint bullets. The Ruger compact magnums are looking pretty good too but I do not like ruger rifles so I will wait to see who all chambers it.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby Kurt » Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:03 am

If money is not a issue get a custom built from GAP then you can have everything that you want. Probally for the same as a trg and it will be exactly what you want. Wish money was not a concern for me i would have one on order now with the USO waiting for it
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby bgoldhunter » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:06 pm

44marlin wrote:i can live with the heaviness and the cost as long as it kills what im after.


You can kill what you want for a lot less...weight and money.

'Course, with money to burn, Kurt has a pretty damn good idea. After handling a few, the TRG is way overpriced in my book.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby 44marlin » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:45 pm

yea i know its a little spendy. well i just want to knock over a deer at 700 yards lol. and me personally i think all 300's are over rated. but thats just me. well any other suggestions besides a 338.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby bgoldhunter » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:51 pm

bgoldhunter wrote:For a hunting rifle, I'd run a 7WSM over all the above.


Ahem...already made one.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby jrockncash » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:29 am

.270 130gr spitzer


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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby waterfowlhunter » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:29 am

bgoldhunter wrote:For a hunting rifle, I'd run a 7WSM over all the above.


I am not knocking the 7 WSM, I had one but just prefer the 30cal
But I am curious as to why?
Not much recoil difference between the 7mm WSM and the 300WSM, Acording to my ballistic programs and online information with 150gr bullets they both have about the same drop out to 500 yds (within 2"). And I can shoot 110gr for varmints and 220gr for Big bear if needed with the 300. I know the the 7mm's have a following as do the 270's which in reality a 30-30 will kill anything here in N. America and has. When I lived in Maine 90% of the guys I knew or hunted with used a 30-30 for bear, deer, moose and coyote. The others usually had a 30-06, some old mauser or shotgun they used.

I have saved all of my 7mm WSM and 270 WSM brass just in case I get the itch to buy one again. :thumbsup:
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby alex is a DUCK hunter » Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:58 am

just go get you a 375 H&H.

but id prly go with the 300. cheaper on shells and your dental bill, that 338. will rattle youre teeth out of ur gums.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby birddog crazy » Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:42 am

if you want a flat shooting , hard hitting , easy to reload 30 caliber , get the 300 ultra mag . it is faster than most other 300 mags including the weatherby, and very accurate cartridge . I have shot the win and weatherby mags , prefer the ultra to them. just my 2 cents .
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby msmall » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:53 pm

Several years ago I used a .338 win mag on black bear in Canada. I was really impressed with the performance of the caliber and have taken it on every big game hunt since. It put a 560 lb black bear down with one shot.....
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby Pumpgunner » Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:24 pm

waterfowlhunter wrote:I know the the 7mm's have a following as do the 270's which in reality a 30-30 will kill anything here in N. America and has. When I lived in Maine 90% of the guys I knew or hunted with used a 30-30 for bear, deer, moose and coyote. The others usually had a 30-06, some old mauser or shotgun they used.


Amen :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It kills me when someone tries to tell me that a .30-06 is marginal for elk, when not too long ago it was at the top end of what many people would shoot. Animals haven't gotten tougher, but the ad writers have gotten better at what they do. :rolleyes:
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby GroundSwatter » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:51 am

Pumpgunner wrote:
waterfowlhunter wrote:I know the the 7mm's have a following as do the 270's which in reality a 30-30 will kill anything here in N. America and has. When I lived in Maine 90% of the guys I knew or hunted with used a 30-30 for bear, deer, moose and coyote. The others usually had a 30-06, some old mauser or shotgun they used.


Amen :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It kills me when someone tries to tell me that a .30-06 is marginal for elk, when not too long ago it was at the top end of what many people would shoot. Animals haven't gotten tougher, but the ad writers have gotten better at what they do. :rolleyes:


I can't tell you how many articles I've read saying that a 30-30 isn't fit to kill anything, and I also can't tell you how much game I've eaten thats been killed by a 30-30. 30-06 Will kill anything in North America no problem. You don't need "Magnum" written on the side of your gun or on your ammo for the animal to fall dead. This doesn't mean that I wouldn't own any of the caliber's mentioned, they're all good rounds with pro's and con's, but my 30-06 does fine.

Just keep in mind, you don't have to kill an animal when its 500 yds away, as people do get close enough to kill these animals with a bow and arrow.
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby cwbydavet » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:28 pm

my vote is for the 416 barrett necked down 50 bmg will take out light armor if you need it
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Re: 300 vs 338

Postby bgoldhunter » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:58 am

I'd go .408 CT before .416. I'd prefer .375/408 over either...

In the situations discussed earlier, I'd still go .284".
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