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Whats good enough?

Postby buffleheadnc2 » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:09 am

I have killed several turkeys before but have never really patterned my gun until this year. My question is what are considered good patterns as far as pellet count? I shot one group at 25 yds at a turkey paper target with 106 hits and one at 45 yds with 29 hits. Would some of you guys that really get into patterns consider this good? I know it will kill a turkey just want to get all I can from my gun.
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Re: Whats good enough?

Postby Indaswamp » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:12 am

buffleheadnc2 wrote:I have killed several turkeys before but have never really patterned my gun until this year. My question is what are considered good patterns as far as pellet count? I shot one group at 25 yds at a turkey paper target with 106 hits and one at 45 yds with 29 hits. Would some of you guys that really get into patterns consider this good? I know it will kill a turkey just want to get all I can from my gun.


We use the turkey targets put out by the NWTF. It has the spine and skull outlined on them. Obviously, to kill a turkey, the more pellets in the head the better. most use the average of at least nine pellets in the head and neck as a base for an minimally effective pattern. But you want to have at least 3 of those in the spine and skull; it only takes one really... but 3 for insurance. all the pellets in the fleshy skin and non-vital areas really don't do squat to kill 'em. But, the more pellets that hit a turkeys head, the more "knock down" power is transferred. Break down your shot count to those I just described and post it up...I can help you go from there as far as killing a turkey. If you want data on pattern density, count the pellets in a 10' circle....

How many in the head and neck?
How many in the spine and skull?
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Postby Indaswamp » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:28 am

also, what choke,gauge, shot, shell length, load...

It all makes a difference...
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Postby 935 Flyway » Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:30 pm

5 pellets in the kill zone @ any range.
{ Head brain-neck spine count.}

Once you get less then 5 pellets in the kill zone you have reached
your max kill range.
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Postby stumpjumper » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:10 am

935 Flyway wrote:5 pellets in the kill zone @ any range.
{ Head brain-neck spine count.}

Once you get less then 5 pellets in the kill zone you have reached
your max kill range.


YEP :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
All you can do then is play with chokes and loads to see if you can improve the pattern

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Postby NMBlackgold » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:11 am

935 Flyway wrote:5 pellets in the kill zone @ any range.
{ Head brain-neck spine count.}

Once you get less then 5 pellets in the kill zone you have reached
your max kill range.


935, should I put my "red dot" on the head to get the max "head-brain, spine count" or should I hold lower on the neck? thanks

PS: I am using the "visicolor" targets that outline the brain, neck, and upper spine.
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Postby stumpjumper » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:38 am

You will want to aim at the waddles!( lumpy red growth on the neck area ) This will purportionaly cover all of the vital areas from lower spine to the brain region.

When you pattern a turkey gun, pellet count in a 10" area is a good indicator of how your gun is performing, BUT it is pellet count IN the vitals that matters.

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Postby NMBlackgold » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:44 am

stumpjumper wrote:You will want to aim at the waddles!( lumpy red growth on the neck area ) This will purportionaly cover all of the vital areas from lower spine to the brain region.

When you pattern a turkey gun, pellet count in a 10" area is a good indicator of how your gun is performing, BUT it is pellet count IN the vitals that matters.

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Thanks Stump, headin out the door now to give it a try....
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Postby Indaswamp » Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:07 pm

shots over about 35 yards... aim where the feathers meet the neck. and wait till his head is away from his body if he's in strutt...bigger target. If he's got his back to you an he's standing straight and high....even if he's 60-65 yards ... with the right pattern, that's a dead turkey if you aim where the feathers meet the neck. top half will rake his head, bottom half and stray pellets will hit his vitals (passing through holes in the fathers)-lungs,heart, etc.... this is the ONLY shot to take past 60 yards IMHO! That is...unless you shot 'em with a rifle in texas...which ain't really turkey huntng, just target practice! :smile:
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Postby 935 Flyway » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:20 pm

NMBlackgold~sorry for the late reply.

Stumpjumper..gave you a good place to hold.


Me personally like to aim just @ the top of the waddles with 3" mags.
Center of the waddles with 3 1/2" mags to compensate for muzzle jump.

Hope you dial it in & get better then 40 yards out of your combo.
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Postby NMBlackgold » Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:48 pm

935 Flyway wrote:NMBlackgold~sorry for the late reply.

Stumpjumper..gave you a good place to hold.


Me personally like to aim just @ the top of the waddles with 3" mags.
Center of the waddles with 3 1/2" mags to compensate for muzzle jump.

Hope you dial it in & get better then 40 yards out of your combo.


935, wasn't too late, the wind was gusting about 20-30 mph at the range so I decided to wait till tomorrow to dial it in. ..Thanks for the advice stump,935, and Inda. Will let you know how it goes.
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Re: Whats good enough?

Postby Maineduckhunter » Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:22 am

If you want to get technical about it, you want to count the pellet hits in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards.
Your shooting a 935, right? Shoot 3.5" shells, using Heavy 13 #6's. You should be putting around 200 pellets into
the 10" circle at this distance. Mind you depends on the choke your using also.
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