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AR complete upper decision

Postby wingcutter » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:39 am

Hi guys, I bought a stripped lower a year ago, bought the guts and furniture and ran out of money, now I think I'm finally ready to buy an upper and finish it off. I want something with good mid-long range accuracy and something that can handle heavier rounds. I don't need TOP quality (nor can I afford it) but I am looking for value, I want to make sure I am getting good quality considering I want to keep the price well under $1k. I think I've settled on the Sabre Defence 18" CMV fluted mid-length with the YHM 12" TJ hand guard (see link below). What do you guys think of this setup in terms of quality? Also, I was wondering if anyone's used the magpul injection molded BUIS, if so are they worth it or are they just plastic crap? Thanks for all the help!

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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby mw46 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:43 pm

What is it going to be used for primarily? Im in the same boat as you and am gunna try out RRA's predator pursuit (i think),what you have picked out sounds like a good choice,Im not real familiar with saber but Ive heard theyre of good quality. Ive heard mixed things about the BUIS,unless your real strapped for cash i would probably go with a quality steel/aluminum model of some type (YHM,Troy,etc)
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby wingcutter » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:10 pm

it's mostly going to be a bench gun, but I want to be able to take it out for some small-medium size game (hence the lighter weight and 1/7 twist). I have a spike's lower and a magpul ACS, and I was also wondering if I can use the standard carbine buffer and spring with the 18" mid length upper
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby mw46 » Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:22 pm

A carbine buffer spring will work fine
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby Major Woods » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:09 pm

Have you thought about a 6.5 Grendel upper?
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby wingcutter » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:02 pm

yes, but cost of the upper and cost and availability of ammo are concerns for my first build, next one I may go 6.5, by then maybe I will have aquired dies and a press
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby devildog28 » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:04 pm

To be honest I'd build one if I was in your shoes. That's what I did. It's pretty easy and you can get top of the line parts but will still have a cost way less than a manufactured upper. I just had a 6.8 mid-length built for under $1200 and that's the whole gun. Use a White Oak Armarent barrel. I got .5 moa after shooting 12 rounds pretty fast with no cool down. 6.8 is .270 caliber so there's your size desire met. Ammo is really cheap contrary to what some people believe. Most loadings are only about $1-2 more than 5.56.

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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby wingcutter » Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:27 am

what's the accuracy like with that 6.8 out a little further, 3,4, 500yds?
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby devildog28 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:31 pm

I only had daylight enough to shoot at 100 yards so keep in mind I was shooting with no cool down. The barrel was already pretty warm when I shot those last 12 shots that were in a .5 inch group. I would guess with confidence that I could easily still be sub-moa with more time out to 200.

To build one is going to save you hundreds. The WOA barrel is $280. A spikes stripped upper is only about $85. The charging handle, gas block, and gas tube are really cheap. My bolt carrier group was $185. You can spend a little or a lot on the handguard and flash hider. My friend in Grand Prarie built mine and I'll be more than happy to put you in touch with him.
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby wingcutter » Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:47 pm

doesn't sound much cheaper: barrel (280) + upper (85) + BCG (185)=$550 + handguard (~150)=700

The complete saber upper I was looking at (5.56) was $699
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby devildog28 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:15 pm

I thought you found one you liked that was $1000. The prices I gave were for a 6.8 build. Even if they cost the same your custom build will be more accurate.
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby devildog28 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:23 pm

I'm at the gym performing "temple maintainence" at the moment but when I get home I'll research some parts if you like.
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Re: AR complete upper decision

Postby wingcutter » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:29 am

cool, that gets at my original question on the quality of Sabre defense components. It appears that Sabre uses pretty high quality components, but I have no experience with them so I wasn't sure
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