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.22-250 ballistics

Postby Omaha Clucker » Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:09 pm

Article in the paper the other week about a guy that shot a whitetail at 900 yds during rifle season. A few days later a bigger story appeared to answer the flood of mail the paper received about that being a typo. The hunter was interviewed and stated it was 100% true, he had a witness, and "what he shoots at he kills" He stated his first shot dropped the deer and he quickly dispatched it with a second shot. To me this reads, "I took a shot at a deer and luckily wounded it enough to close the distance to less than a half-mile so I could kill it. Tha article listed his bullet as a 55 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip. Whether possible or not, I would never take a shot at that range, I don't think its ethical or sporting, but I'm actually curious if this rifle and bullet could cleanly kill a deer at that range?.
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby toolmaker » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:19 pm

did the article say it was shot with a 22-250?

because plenty of cartidges could shoot a 55grain bullet.

Id think that shooting a whitetail at 900 yards with a 22-250 is plain stupid...but doesnt mean that it cant be done.

it seem like there would have to be no wind to effectively shoot a .22 caliber bullet that far and stay on an expected trajectory.

I have shot woodchucks at 500 yards with my 22-250...and it devistated them.... I guess you could KILL a deer with a head shot or drop him with a spine shot......some old lady killed a grizzly with a .22 rifle once...right through the eye....close range...

she won the lottery with that shot.....now its legend!!!

doesnt seem ethical...........even if you were aiming for the head or neck..... we only read about the successes!! though right? ha ha ha


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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby apexhunter » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:49 am

I'd say if the man shot a deer at 900yds and knocked it down he definitely did NOT shoo it with a 55gr Ballistic tip from a 22-250 Rem. According to my ballistics calculator, that bullet launched at 3680'/sec will be going 1059'/sec and have only 137 ft lbs at 900 yards...and it will drop 248" with a 200 yard zero. That is 20.67 FEET of drop and barely enough energy to kill a squirrel at that distance.

Not saying a deer can't be brought down at 900 yards...just not with a 22-250 without it being a "magical bullet" that hits an ear hole or eyeball. .
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby Omaha Clucker » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:19 pm

Thanks Apex, I'm not going to be writing back into the paper or anything, but being one of the only hunters in my office I've been asked about this a couple of times and wanted to be able to speak intelligently on it rather than offer my opinion of this guy. Your numbers confirm what my initial thought. I shoot an open sight .30-.30 and won't take a shot over 80 yards and only when perfectly broadside at that distance, there's just not enough of a sight picture for me to be comfortable. I don't doubt there's optics that make 900 yard shots possible but it bothers me when guys like this get press. Especially when there's basically one outdoor column each week so he's front and center. Thanks again
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby apexhunter » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:15 am

Omaha, 900 yards shots by a highly experienced shooter with quality tactical optics and fast, heavy projectiles are definitely possible. But there are so many variables like wind, temperature, elevation and ballistics that come into play a shot of that distance with a 22-250 is highly, highly unlikely. It would be comarable to shooting a coyote or large groundhog at around 300+ yards with a .22lr.
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby Sagebrush » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:26 am

Even if that 55 gr bullet had the maximum BC of .269 and had a velosity of 3760 fps at the muzzle..........

It would not have enough energy to punch threw the hide and muscles of a deer at 900 yards.

If you have a chance ,take a wet rug out to the range at 600 yards and see for yourself.
Here in Nevada ,we have lots of spare time and dumb ideas of what to do in our spare time.

I have used a nosler 60gr partition and a speer 70 gr to take two mule deer here in Nevada but both body shots
were at 200 yards or less and shot placement is crittical!!
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby apexhunter » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:21 am

The data I used was a BC of .255, SD of .157 and MV of 3680...which is even lower than your example so there is definitely no way in hell it'd kill a deer at 900 yards. At that distance with that load one could shoot their wife in the butt and it'd look like a mosquito bit her...but she would hve to have a rather large backside to hit it at that distance.
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby Sagebrush » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:25 am

If you don't reload there are two loads that will work on deer.

The Federal 60gr Nosler partition and the Winchester 64 gr power point but put three at a target at 100 yards befor
you go hunting to see where they impact the target.
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby tucker301 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 7:15 pm

Sagebrush wrote:If you don't reload there are two loads that will work on deer.


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Just two, huh?
I've dumped a bunch of deer with the 40 and 50 V-max's.
High center front shoulder and they fall right over with their little hoofs still touching their last tracks.

Shot placement is WAY more important than bullet type and weight.
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Re: .22-250 ballistics

Postby Sagebrush » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:11 pm

Didn't say nothing else would not work, just that these two bullets were designed to hunt deer with
and not blow up on the hide if hitting a rib or shoulder and still penetrate to do the job intended for
these larger animals.

40-52 gr bullets can work but they also have a thin copper jacket designed for fast exspansion and not designed
for deep penetration but if they miss bone and also hit the head or spine , yes, they will do the job but were intended for varmit hunting.
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