380 acp vs 9 mm

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380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby shootfirst45 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:18 am

with comparible loads which has more nock down power, i recently read that 380 is also called 9mm short
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby OrangeLake » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:45 am

9mm has more knock down. Google is your friend. Follow this link. The chart at the bottom is especially helpful.

http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/l/aast9mmv380a.htm
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby Sagebrush » Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:42 pm

The main thing with the little 380 is that you need ammo that will not jam and offer a 2nd or 3rd shot if needed.

With the vast improvements in powders and bullet designs the 380 will put a person down and is not a "Toy gun" any more.

With the Cor-Bon 90, Winchester 95 PDX and the Remington 102gr Jhp all with 200 - 220 ft lbs of energy it is equal to a 38 special
in energy, and no one wants a 38 in them !

True the 9mm has more to offer but the 380 is light,small and can do the job with the right ammo.
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby Preacher1011 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:36 pm

A .380 is 9x17 aka 9mm short, and 9mm Kurtz. The 9mm everyone refers to as 9mm is 9x19 aka 9mm Luger, 9mm Parabelum, 9mm NATO. The only difference is the .380's shell is 2mm shorter than the 9.
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby Sagebrush » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:37 am

the factory 90gr in the 380 is 1000 fps while the 9mm fac 90gr is listed at 1360 fps, with that longer case
but most 9mm shooters up to the heavier bullets to try for the "Magic" 13" penetration called for by most
law offices.

Never shot a 380 but did have this 9mm Parabellum.

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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby TomKat » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:53 am

All good guns have 40 somewhere in their name
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby apexhunter » Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:45 pm

TomKat wrote:All good guns have 40 somewhere in their name


And the better ones follow that up with a "five" :thumbsup:

Back to the original point- Sage and Preach are both correct in their statements that the 9 will have more terminal energy due to a larger capacity casing. Given the choice between just these two rounds and disregarding the specifics of the pistol I would opt for the 9...but a 45 trumps them all!!!!!
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby Sagebrush » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:38 am

Until some one pulls out a pistol with 125gr Speer Gold Dot in a .357 Magnum at 1450fps !!

Better than a 40 or 45 at 1 shot stops............... 96%

Raise you.

PS just thought of someting...............
It is new and not many buy it but there is also the 327 Magnum..........a souped up 32 with a longer case.
Charter arms makes a revolver chambered in it.
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby TomKat » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:53 am

Sagebrush wrote:Until some one pulls out a pistol with 125gr Speer Gold Dot in a .357 Magnum at 1450fps !!

Better than a 40 or 45 at 1 shot stops............... 96%

Raise you.

PS just thought of someting...............
It is new and not many buy it but there is also the 327 Magnum..........a souped up 32 with a longer case.
Charter arms makes a revolver chambered in it.


Sage, if you break into my house tonight, I will meet you with guess what? A .357 revolver that lives next to my bed.

HOWEVER....if I was going to meet you at a prescheduled place for a gun fight, I would only want my tricked out Springfld Armory Trophy Match Cup in .45 ACP.

The .45 ACP is a proven man stopper; the army knew this to be true. So did the japs, the germans, and the VC. Nothing at all against the .357, I have owned and shot many of them. But the .45 is made for combat ranges. You dont have near the recoil, report, or penetration of the .357mag with the .45acp

It's just my personal favorite. I also have a Kahr .40 that I really like.
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby Sagebrush » Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:44 am

GI Joe 45 or German 9mm...................has always been the question on which is best.

Power or fire power, I have to admit that the 185gr 45 is a heck of a round but those 9mm magazines hold a lot of bullets !

Now they have the 40 , which is in the middle of the road and some say a do it all load over both loads.
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Re: 380 acp vs 9 mm

Postby TomKat » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:38 pm

The .40 has amassed am impressive record of one shot kills in its short life. There is a lot of LE data that looks favorably upon the .40
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