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Postby cwsims84 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:38 pm

So I finally reported a couple bands i had from last year. I reported them at the same time, I got one of the certificates by email a few days later and still havent gotten the other one. anybody had this issue? its been about two weeks since I reported.
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Re: Bands

Postby War Wagon » Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:28 am

I get 3 to 4 a year. I stopped reporting them years ago......I do not trust the DNR / USFWS. The more info you give them the more regulations you get.
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Re: Bands

Postby duckstopper333 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:04 pm

Depending on when when you shot the birds there's sometimes a delay in getting back the results. When you report them during the season sometimes the biologist that banded them didn't turn in his information on time. I've always got my results, sooner or later, but two weeks is pretty fast. I've had some that took much longer. Give it a month and if you still don't have any results call and ask what happened.

As far as reporting your bands because you're afraid the USFWS will add more regulations, maybe if they had all the band data they might increase the limit? Maybe they would increase the length of the season? My hunting partners and I have waterfowl hunted for a long time and have reported a bunch of bands. We now have the longest seasons and the highest limits the Atlantic Flyway has had for 50 years, I think. Maybe it's helped to report our bands? Plus sometimes we had reward bands ($100) which made it really worthwhile. Plus it's interesting to get the results back and find out where the bird came from and how old it was.
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Re: Bands

Postby War Wagon » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:35 pm

I realy hope thats true. But the populations of geese around here I think has more to do with Farming practice than reporting bands. I'm sorry I just dont trust the DNR here in Wisconsin maybe in your state they are different.
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Re: Bands

Postby cwsims84 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:53 pm

Got my first reward band this last season... how long did it take to get your check?
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Re: Bands

Postby duckstopper333 » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:03 pm

How long ago did you report your reward band? We had one that came a short time after we reported it and the next year we had one that I think took maybe a month, but the checks did come.
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Re: Bands

Postby cwsims84 » Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:02 pm

same time as the others.. about two weeks ago
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Re: Bands

Postby duckstopper333 » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:58 am

I think you need to be patient, two weeks isn't long enough to get a check out of a government agency LOL. After another month it might be time to worry.
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Re: Bands

Postby Eschutz » Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:54 pm

cwsims84 wrote:Got my first reward band this last season... how long did it take to get your check?


I got four hundo bands last year, my 1st season yeah I'm a jerk I know, and got them back w/ in a month. I'm now a bounty hunter for the fed lol!!
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Goose Neck Bands

Postby Stephanie21 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:02 am

Good Morning,
Could someone tell me where you report the goose neck bands. We have one feeding in our backyard right now. I have found 3 websites on line, 2 were no longer working, the other has not replied in 3 days. I have also left messages on two telephone lines. Would certainly appreciate knowing where there is a live person to talk to. I'd love to know where this little gal came from. Thank you.
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Re: Bands

Postby troutbum43 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:37 pm

Goose neck bands are for individual studies, and generally are not part of the national database, as in if you call Laurel Maryland to report and band they most likely will not have data on it. If you can read the USFWS metal band number on the leg then they can give you some information. Most studies with neck collars are on local populations often looking at behavioral or family dynamics, as you can identify each individual and follow them over time and see how many goslings they produce, who they pair with and so on. Other studies use the ratio of birds with neck collars to those without to get rough population estimates. I would guess a local university is who did it, but if its a bird that migrated it could be from anywhere. I don't know where you live, when I was at Humboldt State in Northern CA Professor Jeff Black had a long term study going with Western Canada geese looking at behavioral and breeding dynamics on a resident population, but there a lot of studies going on. Good luck on your search unless you can read the number on the metal band on the leg you may have a tough time getting your answer.
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Re: Bands

Postby aunt betty » Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:37 am

War Wagon...you have it right. These state DNR's just take the info and then they don't share.I have tried to get them to share the data on just ONE lake and they kinda laughed and said that if I wanted to stay at the DNR office and go through the paperwork from day to day from that lake that they would be glad to let me "after I fill out a job application and go through a back-ground check just to VOLUNTEER to do a tabulation on the season's kills at Sangchris lake in Illinois.

They just take all that data on ducks killed and throw it in the trash I believe. That's why it was such a joke when I asked for all that data. Now if you go hunt and don't sign in and don't sign out it doesn't hurt anyone. No data is lost that would not have been lost anyway yet there is a penalty for not playing their "fill out the forms so we can pitch them" game.

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The agriculture dept. has more to do with how the ducks and geese migrate than anything the DNR could ever do. No-till farming and the fact that East-Central-Illinois is covered in wasted corn from kids running the combines too fast....has had more to do with the migration stopping here for Canada Geese. Global warming my butt. Giant Canada Geese and no-till ag. have changed everything for Illinois goose hunting....ask them guys who live by Herrin, Illinois (in the south). NO GEESE where there used to be millions. They are all in my backyard now which is 150-200 miles north of where the geese usually go.
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Re: Bands

Postby War Wagon » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:28 pm

Today I saw very large flocks of ducks and geese coming of Lake Michigan. Open water and a food source is what they have here in eastern Wis. Here is a pic of bands over a lifetime of waterfowling.
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Re: Bands

Postby dmiller_time » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:10 pm

:lol: Thats like ten lifetimes of bands for a south ga boy!!
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Re: Bands

Postby possumfoot » Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:47 pm

troutbum43 wrote:Goose neck bands are for individual studies, and generally are not part of the national database, as in if you call Laurel Maryland to report and band they most likely will not have data on it. If you can read the USFWS metal band number on the leg then they can give you some information. Most studies with neck collars are on local populations often looking at behavioral or family dynamics, as you can identify each individual and follow them over time and see how many goslings they produce, who they pair with and so on. Other studies use the ratio of birds with neck collars to those without to get rough population estimates. I would guess a local university is who did it, but if its a bird that migrated it could be from anywhere. I don't know where you live, when I was at Humboldt State in Northern CA Professor Jeff Black had a long term study going with Western Canada geese looking at behavioral and breeding dynamics on a resident population, but there a lot of studies going on. Good luck on your search unless you can read the number on the metal band on the leg you may have a tough time getting your answer.




wrong!!!! on the first part... the rest is pretty much correct...


you can call 1-800-327-BAND.. report the alpha numeric code and color.. these are as unique as the leg band codes...
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Re: Bands

Postby duckman27 » Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:32 pm

Some times the birds that have been recently banded will take longer to get info back on becasue the bander has not yet recorded the data collected about the bird. Other times though it will just take forever for no reason. I've had reports back within two weeks and one that took about a year to hear back on
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Re: Bands

Postby SPatrick » Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:57 am

If you report them online it is usually there within the day. Every band I reported this year I got the information back instantly and the certificate got emailed within the next 2 days.

Possum is also correct neck collars are part of the federal banding projects, and the information will be readily available to you. I forget the band reporting website but I am sure it is listed on this site somewhere, there are spots that you can report neck collars, even if you just see them in the field.
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Re: Bands

Postby BGipson » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:39 pm

You really should report bands because none of that info goes to state agencies since they do NOT manage waterfowl. It is the USFWS that manages waterfowl and the seasons/limits/etc. associated with waterfowl hunting. The info is very important to long term studies of migration and area use. I guess this kind of behavior bugs me because I work in this field and know how important hunter response is. The personal surveys that your state DNR requires you to fill out I have no opinion on because I have never worked for WI so I have no idea how professional or backwards they run there. But the bands I do strongly feel you should report for the benefit of ALL waterfowl hunters.
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