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new wichester hi-density?

Postby jjohnson_714 » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:31 pm

they cant be serious about the price can they???
http://www.winchester.com/products/cata ... =16&use=18

$42.34 for a box of 10??
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Postby akbrett » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:40 pm

They're off their rocker if they think the average waterfowler is going to pay almost $4.25 a shell. :eek:
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Postby Smackaduck » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:47 pm

Those are those shells everyones always asking about, all you do is throw up and shoot. Your duck is plucked dressed and placed in an airtight bag beside you. The shell does it all.

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If they're dumb enough to be lured in by plastic you're really just doing them a favor.

Know your target before you pull the trigger.

Duck Hunting is ALL about the bag.
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Postby Greg Wile » Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:21 pm

And we all thought hevi shot and the other like shells were pricey.
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Postby CrackerJackShot » Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:53 am

HAHAHAHAA :toofunny: I dont know what it is about that but it just makes me laugh!! Whats even WORSE is you know what? some idiot rich person is probably going to buy them and use them!! We shoot Hevi a few times a year, and it seems we are odd for doing so. But this is just crazy. I would never even think about buying that!! :laughing: I think that Winchester will find this out as well.
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Postby Sagebrush » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:42 am

Win. stated "softer than gun barrels & chokes"

Hevi is harder ! Bismuth is soft ! Must be a hard Bismuth ?

You got to be CRAZY to pay that much for that type of load.....

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Postby Citori12 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:13 am

Look real close, this is a 12 ga 3 1/2" 1 5/8oz @ 1450fps load....Instead of buying a ten gauge you can make your 12ga a 10ga. And I bet there are those that will use it.... For me I use my extra shotgun shell money for gas, more decoys, better calls, and maybe a new Berratta SXS. Because if I could afford to shoot those I certainly can afford a pricey SXS.
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Postby Sagebrush » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:38 am

C12; Did you notice Win. left one thing out?

This 3 1/2" load with 1 5/8 ounces at 1450fps is a "10 Ga," load.

Fired out of a light weight 12 Ga. shotgun.......How much Ft Lbs recoil do you think we are talking about here ! ! !

I don't think this is a load for the ladys or younger hunters to try out.

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Postby Citori12 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:41 am

Oh ya I did notice and for those of us that have used 1 5/8oz loads in guns like a winchester 1300, mossberg 835 I can tell you what.....your gonna notice when that buttstock slaps you in the cheek. More power, more power!!!!!! More is better!!!!! I tried a 2oz 3" 12ga turkey load once on a pattern board in a light pump 12.....I can tell you what I would just as soon shoot a 600 nitro express.
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Postby Sagebrush » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:21 am

Welcome to the club !

How come you and I both used a light weight pump to shoot the biggest, meanest load ever in your lives ?

Like you said, that stock did move around a little !

Did yours "self eject" from the recoil like mine ?
My hand was in the "rear" position ready to chamber another round.
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Postby CrackerJackShot » Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:46 am

HAHA I loaded some 3 1/2 inch federals either 1 3/8 or 1 1/2 oz load that moved 1500 fps or so on the bench. When I shot I didnt even have my hand on the stock and it almost ejected itself. So I got a hot 2 1/4 oz turkey load and shot it and it ejected it cleanly!!!
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Postby Citori12 » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:31 pm

that is exactly why I use a 10lb gas auto 10ga for 3 1/2" fodder.. Heck the 5'8" 120lb fiance can use that gun with heavy goose loads. I used a mossberg 835 some years ago for about 1/2 a season....that was it! I feel the same way about nova's...not enough weight when using a heavy load. I like pulling the trigger and being right on the next bird without picking myself off the ground.
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Postby farhod » Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:33 pm

i was just reading remington came out with a new load after they split with heavy. its called wingmaster HD and for 32 bux for a box of 10 thats a ripppppppppppppppp i would never pay that much for a box of shells for 3 boxes of these i could get a whole case of kent fasteel 3 1/2 BB 1625 ft/sec these only go 1325 hahahah
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Postby Sagebrush » Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:45 pm

I went on line c/o Winchester & there it was: "Extended Range" 2 3/4" # 2's, 55% higher density than steel.

However , their stocks must have dropped because the cost is now

$33.23 for 10 SHELLS. ($3.33 a shell)

You have two options to use these shells : Either you are a heck of a shot & never miss or your hunting buddy's last name is Trump ! :laughing: :laughing: :hammering: :hammering:
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Postby farhod » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:08 am

not a price drop the ones u found are 2 3/4 the ones on the link above are 3 1/2 hahah thats the only reason
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Postby Citori12 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:50 am

Does anyone realize anytime you pay that kind of money per round you might as well be shooting a Holland and Holland 600 nitro express,,,,even 7mm weatherby ammunition is not that pricey!!!
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Postby Sagebrush » Mon Feb 20, 2006 1:16 pm

I have yet to see a Cape Buffalo fly over me C12 ?
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Postby CrackerJackShot » Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:47 pm

:toofunny: :laughing: I was thinkin the same thing!! Yeah C12 I had a mossberg that I hunted with for about 3 years, after I was weened off the 20 ga and my dad got sick of letting me use his 1187. It literally knocked me on the ground back then. I gues it could have also been because I was trying to burn 3 1/2 goose loads from the trip that we went on. There were a couple of times I rose up and pulled the trigger and had to finish my other 2 shots while laying down!!!!! lol
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Postby Citori12 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:44 am

:toofunny: :laughing: There are some folks that think that is what is needed to shoot a simple canada goose however!!!!!! :laughing: I swear they were trying to knock down cape buffalo haaa haaaa. For me heck just a good old load in a 3" 12ga #1's do a very good job about as far as I can shoot anyway. So as time goes on I am sure there will be other "High velocity" "Long Range" ammunition hitting the market and I am sure there are folks out there that will buy it , swear by it, and will shoot nothing else, Even at 4$ a round....For me heck I don't like shooting steel half the time for the price...I can load a premuim nickle plated lead pheasant load for the cost of a decent steel duck load. So even though most people cannot hit a bird past 45 yards lets let them believe a long range piece of metal with get them killing birds at 100 yards.
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Postby tengoose1 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:46 pm

1 5/8 @1450 wow! That is going to be stout load, my reloading manual has 2 loads that are not recommended for auto shotguns, 1 5/8@1490 and 1 3/4@1400 in lead. A 3.5 12 action is not built nearly as heavy as a 10ga action so it makes you wonder how much abuse the 12 will take of loads like these.
I dont want to kill them all just the first one and the last one!
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Postby Citori12 » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:54 pm

Because I used to shoot stout loads for geese using mossberg, and winchester light aluminum allow reciever shotguns. I can tell you this...those were only 3" guns. Looking at the nova and others in the same class I have got to say....no way can those guns stand up to heavy loads for very long...of course in my case it wasn't stout loads that caused thier demise necessarily. It was stout loads combined with an average of 500 rounds of trap and skeet weekly....they just did not hold up to that kind of shooting. That is why when I buy a shotgun its built to last...through more than that...now I shoot almost 10,000 rounds of sporting clays a year and I gotta say it takes a good gun.
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Postby SwampMonster » Wed May 10, 2006 4:47 pm

Dang it man. I'm gonna spend a small fortune in the off-season just testing and patterning all the new non-tox offerings with all my different chokes, just because I can't help myself. I just hate that about me.

I'm a sucker for this stuff and it chaps my hide too. :pissed:

I think I'll join the local AA chapter, (Ammoholics Annonymous.) :oops:
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Postby Citori12 » Wed May 10, 2006 6:17 pm

:thumbsup: :laughing: :laughing: You got da bug man!!!!! Us dumb old redneck boys shooting holes in paper with everything under da sun soon discovered a bright new idea....... :toofunny: find something dat works an use it. Trying to knock down 747's outa da air is for folks like me who spent some time in the military who absolutely needs a 20mm vulcan cannon to hit anything too far away. Plus wearing glasses does not help...but then I take home my share of game and thats good enough I do not need to shoot at everything that flys over in hopes of my full choke, automatic, shoootgun can hit em!!!!!! :laughing: :laughing:
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Postby SwampMonster » Wed May 10, 2006 7:02 pm

:toofunny:

Citori, I usually end up using my pet loads anyway, but man I just can't resist tinkering with new stuff when it comes out. I'm exactly the kind of person Hevi-Shot and the like is marketed towards; Got more money than sense. :oops:
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Postby pennsyltucky » Wed May 10, 2006 7:43 pm

i have some sense (cents) wanna trade?????
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