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First truck

Postby Remingtonshooter4897 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:30 pm

Im 15 and looking for a good first truck. Im stuck between a ford ranger and a dodge dakota. Which one do you'al think is best
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Re: First truck

Postby 2500hdon37s » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:24 pm

the dakota, much better truck..... depending on the year much better transmission as well. I know a few people with dakotas and they are long lasting trucks for what they are if you take care of them. but Honestly if i were looking for a NON-full size truck I'd be looking at Toyota tacomas. not quite the power of the dodge but better millage, better features, also they have much better off road capabilities (if thats a concern), and almost a given to last over 250k miles.

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Re: First truck

Postby JuniorPre 360 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:24 am

If you are looking into a ranger, I'd trade up and go with an f150. My first truck was a lifted 95 f150. They are great for hunting and have just enough power to get your stuff done.
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Re: First truck

Postby California Sprig » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:31 am

Depends on who you talk too. I have 2 friends who had Dakota's and they both had nothing but problems with them. I agree with 2500hdon37s - get a toyota tacoma for your first truck. They are in general very dependable, last a long time and even stock are excellent off road. If you have the $$ get a 6 rather than a 4 cylinder.
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Re: First truck

Postby aunt betty » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:58 pm

I was thinking the same thing. Look for a decent shape toyota that has a 4-cyl.
The 2200 cc engines in them things run for a long time.
Under-powered but that's kinda what a younger driver needs until he gets a whole lot more experience.

For an inexperienced driver...
More power means you can get into more trouble more quickly and do more damage when you do it.(and spend more money fixing it)
Plus larger, more expensive, and more powerful trucks cost more to maintain.
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Re: First truck

Postby Remingtonshooter4897 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:24 pm

Yeah tacomas are nice trucks except you have to break the bank to pay for one. Im looking for something under the 9-10 thousand dollar range
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Re: First truck

Postby patrick0685 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:06 am

Remingtonshooter4897 wrote:Yeah tacomas are nice trucks except you have to break the bank to pay for one. Im looking for something under the 9-10 thousand dollar range


i would get a 1999 ish year tacoma extended cab 4x4 5 speed...those are some sweet trucks, and every guy should know how to drive a 5 speed. They have tons of after market stuff if you need to fix/replace anything. I have a 2000 4-runner with 180000 miles on it still going strong.
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Re: First truck

Postby wetgoldenretriever » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:48 am

in a year im buying a lifted first gen dodge cummins :wink:
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Re: First truck

Postby 2500hdon37s » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:48 am

wetgoldenretriever wrote:in a year im buying a lifted first gen dodge cummins :wink:

:no: you couldnt give me a 12 valve. ours is a true piece of $hit, and the transmissions behind them are a joke. not to mention the trucks that fall apart around them....

also I would not buy a truck lifted, I would buy the truck you want and then lift it. build it the way you want, and you get a truck that hasnt been ragged on.
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Re: First truck

Postby 2500hdon37s » Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:55 am

aunt betty wrote:.
More power means you can get into more trouble more quickly and do more damage when you do it.(and spend more money fixing it)

been there...... done that! :lol3: :beer:
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First truck

Postby whisperin' duck » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:35 pm

The last tacoma I bought was a 4cyl 5 speed 4x4 with 135k miles on it n I payed $1700 for it. Put a little tlc in it and sold it for 3250. Buy yourself a fixer upper if you're mechanically inclined at all.

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Re: First truck

Postby wetgoldenretriever » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:01 pm

I would be buying it from an old guy that I know and then putting a lift on it and it has a 5 speed manual so im not too worried about
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Re: First truck

Postby krazybronco2 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:12 am

Remingtonshooter4897 wrote:Im 15 and looking for a good first truck. Im stuck between a ford ranger and a dodge dakota. Which one do you'al think is best


depends on what ranger you are getting if it is 4wd with the 4.0v6 with a 5sp then you will have a pretty close to unstoppable truck. the 4.0 is a good motor basicly a bored and stroked 2.9v6 and the trans is best straight transmissions ford ever put in a RBV and the 4wd transfer case is amazing they used essenitally the same transfer case from 83-04 only diff is the borg warner 1350 had a slip yoke for the front drive shaft and th borg warner 1354 came with a fixed yoke.

also if you get a ranger that is pre 97 or 98 then it comes with a TTB front end instead of the IFS. the TTB is a kinda a hybrid between an IFS and a solid axle. and if you get a ranger that is post 89 it comes with a dana 35 front end it is pretty strong and will handle tires up the 35in with out a locker and the u joints are the same size as a stoke D44. the weakest part of the d35 is the auto 4wd hubs but they can be replaced with warn manual hubs for around $200.
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Re: First truck

Postby aunt betty » Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:36 am

6-month-old thread. He's either bought a truck or a motorcycle by now. :wink:
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Re: First truck

Postby 2500hdon37s » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:06 pm

krazybronco2 wrote: TTB front end instead of the IFS. the TTB is a kinda a hybrid between an IFS and a solid axle..

I have seen many times that those TTB's are junk. I'd much rather have IFS. TTb's wear tires horribly can be a b***h to keep aligned and because the camber angles the tires see during a turn. maybe not so much on a ranger but the ones that were in the 250's have alignment problems because of the trucks weight.

I see old broncos, 250's, and rangers daily with tires where the shoulders of the tires are bald and the center of the tires are still 1/2-3/4 tread.
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Re: First truck

Postby krazybronco2 » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:56 am

2500hdon37s wrote:
krazybronco2 wrote: TTB front end instead of the IFS. the TTB is a kinda a hybrid between an IFS and a solid axle..

I have seen many times that those TTB's are junk. I'd much rather have IFS. TTb's wear tires horribly can be a b***h to keep aligned and because the camber angles the tires see during a turn. maybe not so much on a ranger but the ones that were in the 250's have alignment problems because of the trucks weight.

I see old broncos, 250's, and rangers daily with tires where the shoulders of the tires are bald and the center of the tires are still 1/2-3/4 tread.


let me guess most of the front ends look like this. or the opposite way with the bottow of the tire sticking out.
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camber bushing are needed to get it close but the only way to get an alignment perfect after a lift is with drop brackets. other than that everything else acts like a straight axle. and if the shoulders of the tires were bald then sounds like the tires were underinflated and that can happen on any tire.
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Re: First truck

Postby nnorem7618 » Sat May 11, 2013 8:42 pm

A guy in my shop class last year had a Ranger. 2008, I believe. It was sitting on 35s and a 4 inch lift or something similar. He was bringing it into class every day to fix one thing or another on it. :fingerpt: :rolleyes:

Little late, I know.
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Re: First truck

Postby 2500hdon37s » Sun May 12, 2013 8:56 am

nnorem7618 wrote:A guy in my shop class last year had a Ranger. 2008, I believe. It was sitting on 35s and a 4 inch lift or something similar. He was bringing it into class every day to fix one thing or another on it. :fingerpt: :rolleyes:

Little late, I know.

35's under a 4in on a ranger :no: I bet that thing hates life and the fenders are cut to clear big time!
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Re: First truck

Postby nnorem7618 » Sun May 12, 2013 2:03 pm

Yeah, it was pretty bad.
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Re: First truck

Postby nnorem7618 » Sun May 12, 2013 2:09 pm

But to bring it back to the main topic, I'm also looking at my first truck. I get my license in about 2 months. After a bit of searching on Craigslist, I've found a few. The one that sticks out to me the most is a 1990 "Chevy Scottsdale Silverado"(??) with a 8 inch suspension lift and a 3 inch body lift, sitting on a brand new set of 38" Nitto Mud Grapplers. Here's a copy/paste of the ad..

"This a 1990 Chevy Scottsdale silverado pick up with an 8 inch pro comp suspension lift and 3 inch body lift and brand new 38 inch nitto mud grappler tires and brand new rims and the truck clears the tires it has a nice satin black paint job not primer. It has a steel cowl induction hood updated interior with 2002 seats CD player with aux and iPod hook ups Rockford fosgate speakers turbo 400 TH400 Trans with a shift kit shifts firm way better than the 700r4 Trans ac blows Ice cold and heat works great truck rides amazing all new ball joints tie rods pitman arms and idler arms and alignment so the truck is nice and tight drives straight with no steering wheel wobble or anything."

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Thoughts? I'm not too educate about truck specs and stuff. So any assistance would be appreciated.

P.S. Asking price is just under $6k
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Re: First truck

Postby 2500hdon37s » Mon May 27, 2013 3:54 pm

worth $4500 at most with all the new parts and tires. how many miles, how many miles has it been lifted and are the axles regeard would be my questions......

if its got high miles (like over 175k) I wouldnt be worth it to me. just be ready to replace the ball joints, tie rods, and front wheel bearings like the seller has just to sell it. I have 37's on 3/4 ton ifs and its hard enough on that. no way I would want 37+in tires on half ton ifs.
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Re: First truck

Postby mendotakiller » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:23 pm

my first truck was a 1999 dodge ram 1500...lifted it 12 inches and put some 40's on it. Threw some 3/4 ton dana 60's under it and regeard it to 5:13. thing will crawl over ANY thing. very nice play truck...not good on gas mileage. now i have a 97 12 valve cummins. thing runs like a champ...its got over 355,000 miles on original tranny and motor. and yes i do haul heavy loads with it quite often. It has small lift...4 inch lift on 35's...tires rub a lil on the A-arms when turning just need some wheel spacers. But its got a shaved pump and 150 hp injectors...ROALS COAL LIKE A SOB! I can roal coal for days hahaha its really fun...gets about 20mpg if your good to it.
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Re: First truck

Postby ajmorell » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:46 am

mendotakiller wrote:my first truck was a 1999 dodge ram 1500...lifted it 12 inches and put some 40's on it. Threw some 3/4 ton dana 60's under it and regeard it to 5:13. thing will crawl over ANY thing. very nice play truck...not good on gas mileage. now i have a 97 12 valve cummins. thing runs like a champ...its got over 355,000 miles on original tranny and motor. and yes i do haul heavy loads with it quite often. It has small lift...4 inch lift on 35's...tires rub a lil on the A-arms when turning just need some wheel spacers. But its got a shaved pump and 150 hp injectors...ROALS COAL LIKE A SOB! I can roal coal for days hahaha its really fun...gets about 20mpg if your good to it.


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Re: First truck

Postby aunt betty » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:27 am

1-Yr-old thread gets new life :thumbsup:
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Re: First truck

Postby mendotakiller » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:37 am

ajmorell- not to sure what there called...i call them A-arms because they form an A. not sure if thats stock or not. I have the same set up on my ram 1500 as well...i actually snapped both of them off when i was messin around...they make a huge difference when you have something as tall as that rig...every corner i turned into the cab would sway back and forth
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