Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

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Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby pwhnts5 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:10 pm

UPDATED WITH 36 HP PRO-DRIVE MOTOR RESULTS!!!!!!

We have had alot of requests to build a larger version of our Prowler hulls ever since we introduced them two years ago. Well we have had the bent material on hand for over a year now and finally managed to get the prototype 44" Prowler built and tested.

This new hull is built off the same design concept as the production 36" bottom Prowlers, but everything is bigger and tougher to handle more people, gear and bigger motors.

Here are some pictures:

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Test Results:

Okay, here is the hard data on the new Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744.

We ran this motor in controlled tests for two days using the same five men, same water and conditions.

We tested a 12hp, 18hp, an older 20 hp MB Hyperdrive and a 27 Pro-Drive.

Here are the basic details on the hull:

New Phowler Prowler Extreme Series:

Lenghts from 15-18' Test Boat 1744
Bottom Width 44"
Max Beam 60"
Cockpit Beam 44"
Cockpit Lenghts 116" (15') to 152" (18')
Cockpit Depth 22"
Available in low or high transom risers.

Hull Material - Subhull .100 5086
Stringers - Five
Full floor
Drop in Seats
Running lights
Full Floatation Standard

HP ratings - 25-40 hp depending on models This one can be rated for 40 hp, but we need to test it with a 36 PD to make sure it is safe for this large a motor. TESTING DONE WITH 36 HP PRODRIVE- RAN GREAT AND WILL BE RATEDTO HANDLE A 35-35 CLASS SURFACE DRIVE IN 17-18' MODELS.

Capacity Ratings 3-5 persons depending on model. The 1744 is rated for 4 persons.

Full line of accessories and custom options to choose from.

We are now taking orders for September Delivery.

Testing Conditions:

Deep water - Mississippi River below Lock and Dam 13, in channel 10-20' water 2 mph current average.

Shallow Water - Same are off channel in 3"-18" water.

Wind Light to 5 mph.

Men weight - average 185-190 lbs with one 280 lbs.

Test Results:
updated!
36 Pro-Drive Short Shaft with Power Trim and Auto Reverse:
1 Man 210 lbs - 30 mph average
2 Men 450 lbs - 28mph average
3 Men 660 lbs - 26.5 mph average
4 Mend 925 lbs - 24.5 mph average

Shallow water 1-2 feet

4 men 925lbs - 27.5mph top speed.



12 hp Copperhead
1 man 20 mph average, max 21mph
2 men 18 mph average max 19.1
3 men 17.2 mph average max 18 mph
4 men 14.9 mph average max 15.4 mph
5 men 10 mph average max 12 mph
All deep water

18 hp Copperhead Vanguard/Briggs
1 man 25 mph average, max 26.5 mph
2 men 22 mph average max 22.7
3 men 20 mph average max 21 mph
4 men 17.5 mph average max 18 mph
5 men 13 mph average max 14 mph

Shallow Water 3 Men 23.5 mph max

2006 20hp Honda Mudbuddy Original Hyper drive (with worn out prop)
1 man 19 mph average, max 21 mph
2 men 17 mph average max 18.1
3 men 15 mph average max 16 mph
4 men 12 mph average max 13 mph

Please note the prop on this motor was roached, no cupping left, but it is what we had at the shop to test, you can be pretty sure that will a new prop this motor would have picked up 2-4 mph, it was slipping badly with the heavier loads.

27 Prodrive Shortshaft with reverse
1 man 26.5 mph average, max 27.8 mph
2 men 24 mph average max 25
3 men 22 mph average max 23.5 mph
4 men 19 mph average max 19.5 mph
5 men 15.5 mph average max 16.2 mph

Shallow water with 4 men max 24.2 mph

We were impressed with all the motors, even the little 12hp. Even with the larger loads at slower speeds the boat was fully on plane and handled great. This boat will turn on a dime. The ride is smooth.

We were very impressed with the 27 PD being over 100lbs heavier then the Copperheads, yet is carried the load very well. Both the 18hp Copperhead and the 27 PD will make a very good 3 man rig with gear and still run 17-20 mph.

These boats are 2-3 man hunting rigs, though you could hunt 4 out of an 18' version.

We will be able to rate this boat for a 36 hp surface drive, but we did not have a short shaft here to test, we should be doing this in the next few weeks and will post results.

As noted, our prototype performed just as we thought it would and we don't need to change anything on this hull to go into production. We have additional hull materials here and will have more coming soon, so we are taking orders now for fall delivery.

Here are two videos of the tests, one is the 18 Cooperhead with three the other the 27 PD with four

Click pictures to link to video
18 Copperhead with 3 men:



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27 Prodrive with 4 men:

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These new hulls will go into production in August, we are taking orders already.

Phowler Boat Company offers the most complete line of waterfowling rigs on the market, check out our website for our full line of custom boats and blinds.

PW
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby charlieboy51 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:46 pm

It looked nice have un-finished on the shop floor a couple of weeks ago, and ten times as nice now. Can't wait to see it finished, and in motion. Show pix of inside, too.
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby Griffin4590 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:06 pm

I want one. How bud of a MM can one stap to it? any details like floor thickness?
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby pwhnts5 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:20 am

More Details have been posted with test results and specification.

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby koonce727 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:09 pm

sick, I want one
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby pwhnts5 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:32 pm

We took three more local guys out in the prototype this week who have been waitng to see this boat, all three ordered one the sameday and to others emailed in orders for August, will have additional hull materials coming in a few weeks for more!!!!!!

This is a really sweet rig, runs with load like the smaller Prowlers but has alot more room for extra men and gear, this is great addition to the Phowler line-up for this year.

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby lostknife4 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:41 am

They are great seaworthy boats but where are the pfd's? Lost
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby pwhnts5 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:21 pm

There is one in the boat for every man, all safety equipment as required by law here. :yes: :yes:

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby let them work » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:52 am

Why close up the top which constricts your gear space? Seems like your going to get there fast with your 1/2 dozen decoys and 5lb chiwawa retriever. Maybe the pictures are misleading.
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744

Postby pwhnts5 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:07 am

The sub walls of a hull of this size are only 14" tall, not safe for rough water, the cockpit is 22" tall, safe enough to run big water with. There is alot of room in this hull. You could easily carry two-three men, 2-3 dozen blocks and a full size dog and gear and still run 19-20 mph based on our load tests. Seeing is believing.

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby kruk » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:49 am

Whats the cost on the hulls? Any way to upgrade to a .125 bottom?
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby Drew2010 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:09 am

Might have to come look at one of these some time, Paul, ive never been in one of your boats but I hear tons of good things about them. Just have to see if I can justify the cost of buying one.

I am also interested in price on this boat, any package deals with a prodrive? :wink:

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby QuackSmacker58 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:01 am

agreed. What is the purpose of this boat? To go out to your duck blind 5 miles off shore? Why such tall walls? How shallow of water will it run in? How does it do in the mud? My 18 foot Go-devil doesnt need water to run because of its wide stance. I'd like to see the procedure for fitting all your gear in the boat along with a dog and 3 clients. I think its a decent personnel transport vessel, but not such a good design for my 4 dozen decoys and 80lb Labrador. do you have a blind designed to go over it to hunt from the boat?
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby pwhnts5 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:36 pm

Yes we have blinds designed, just got back from hunting these boats in NE and they worked great. These are not meant to be 3-4 man rigs with tons of decoys, they are two-three man boats that can be used with smaller MM, like the 27 PD or 18 Copperhead. They can carry a good load, draft minimal water, be safe on big water and they are alot easier to get off a sand bar then our larger boats. We have found they work well everywhere we have taken and sold them. They are another option for guys wanting a self contained smaller boat package that is easy to hide and very comfortable to hunt from.

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby Nomad82 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:09 am

Paul, When will you guys have a price list availiable for these rigs? Im am def thinking about coming and seeing y'all when i get back stateside and check them out. Just have to try and convince the wife that she needs a new boat. Keep the great products coming.

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Postby buckmeister » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:38 pm

I like the part about being easier to get of a sandbar.
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Postby Joe Guide » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:18 am

Interesting design, photos and video.
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby Paddles Down » Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:07 pm

I am interested to see what the price list is for the 44" boats as well. The 36" wide boats are very reasonably priced. Nice job Prowler team on another great addition.
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated!!!!

Postby Nomad82 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:00 am

pwhnts5 wrote:Yes we have blinds designed, just got back from hunting these boats in NE and they worked great. These are not meant to be 3-4 man rigs with tons of decoys, they are two-three man boats that can be used with smaller MM, like the 27 PD or 18 Copperhead. They can carry a good load, draft minimal water, be safe on big water and they are alot easier to get off a sand bar then our larger boats. We have found they work well everywhere we have taken and sold them. They are another option for guys wanting a self contained smaller boat package that is easy to hide and very comfortable to hunt from.

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PW, do you have any pics from the hunt that you took these boats on? Really intereseted to see interior pics and any of the blind that you have for them. Any timeline for when we may be seeing these new rigs on the Phowler website? Thanks for any addidtional updates and pics that you can put out on these rigs.

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated

Postby hedge » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:19 pm

the 27 Pro Drive video gives a pretty good shot of the interior. if you like some more pics pm Me . I got some pretty good shots when I made the trip there.
. I would also like to see some pics of the blind!!
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated

Postby DIESEL96c » Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:49 pm

Cant find a price anywere would really like to know interested in buying one
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated

Postby pwhnts5 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:52 pm

Pricing is up on our website now, come see one in action at our Spring Demos, details are posted on this site!!

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated

Postby Lacoonass » Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:46 pm

Looks like a 17ft four man Sneakboat easy to.hide doesnt look very comfy though.
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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated

Postby pwhnts5 » Wed May 08, 2013 4:12 pm

We hunted three out of it with dog last season and it was comfortable, alittle cramped with dog, but perfectly huntable, two with dog and heavy gear it was ideal.

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Re: Introducing the New Phowler Prowler Extreme 1744 Updated

Postby Lacoonass » Sat May 11, 2013 8:21 am

Doesnt appear comfy at all

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