cyoung24 wrote:Disclaimer: I'm getting on my soapbox again and I'm gonna be long winded.
Ok I'll start off with stating my stance on the SE zone. I would be 100% for the SE zone if the northern border was moved south in turn not including MDC. I can't speak for Flint Hills but from what Ive read they are much like MDC. I lived in SEK for 8 years now im in the kc area and hunt sek when we freeze up north. There is nothing I love more than to shoot ducks in a corn field. That being said I'm lucky enough to have friends that I can hunt with when we freeze. I hunt about 20 days a year which is not as many as some but more than a lot. I am far from a fair weather hunter. I have hunted in the coldest of the cold borderline hypothermia weather. I will address my two points separately. The rigged vote and freeze up. There are also a couple of good reads about the zone here are the links: http://m.kansas.com/wichita/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=ekRPGS26 and http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=910525
Opinion #1 The Vote
I used the word rigged in a previous post and I probably should have used a different word like predetermined. The way the Wichita Eagle made it sound from interviewing the commission members is that they had their votes set before the meeting or the public and biologist's input. Also IMO there is a severe conflict of interests in that commissioner Budd owns a duck club next to neosho and CBI. IMO he should have to abstain from voting let alone influence someone else's vote which is what happened as said by the commissioner them self. The Wichita Eagle published that the surveys said 77% of Kansan's wanted an earlier season. That should have been the end of discussions and voted the way the majority wanted not for a minority's personal agenda. If the survey went showed 50.1% for earlier they should have voted with the majority. On top of the surveys the state biologist said an earlier season is more beneficial for Kansan's.
Mr. O'Neil I value your opinion and input probably more than those from anyone on this forum and I would say that everyone respects you more than anyone on this forum and you are welcome in our blind any day. That being said I must respectfully voice a different opinion from a different point of view. The past few seasons have been drastically different. Last year was rediculouslly warm while the season before had 3inch ice in the middle of December. Not every person is hardcore hunting everyday breaking ice and chasing birds all over the country side. Many Kansan's go out a couple times a year early in the season when it's not too cold to take their kids. The thing is they pay for their licenses and stamps and pay their taxes just like you and I. I feel that cutting their seasons for the few of us so we can go shoot our greenheads only is simply unfair to the majority of hunters. I know most of you don't want to hear it but the public marshes were made for everyone not just the die hard waterfowlers only. Not everyone has the resources, time or money to go chase birds all over but they can go to the local marsh and have a shot at shooting a few birds. I feel that is limited with a later season. As far as having ducks in your spread during goose season that is going to happen all the way till spring the fact is lots of ducks winter here ecspecially in far south KS. I also feel a later start eliminates the posibility of shooting certain species of waterfowl (ie pintails redheads wood ducks etc). Pintails to a lesser extent but they seem more prevalent early in the season. At the marsh I would much rather take one of the previous 3 any day over a mallard.
All this being said all this is my opinion and I'm not at all trying to piss people off. Please feel free to tear it apart.
Well said Chris. I have absolutely no problem with the dates if the northern line of the zone is 54 hwy, excluding MDC and Flint Hills. The fact that one guy with multiple conflicts of interest determines the season dates for thousands of hunters is troubling, and sets a poor precedent for the future. Make sure those of you who are displeased with how things went communicate your frustrations to the commissioners themselves. http://www.kdwpt.state.ks.us/news/KDWPT ... missioners