immature scaup? Bird ID please

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immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby wanapasaki » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:57 am

Was flying with the teal but obviously it's not. What is this guys? maybe juvenile scaup?
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby loon » Sun Oct 21, 2012 2:04 pm

Would be nice to see the bill but I would actually say it was either a redhead or a ringnecked duck. There's no white on the lower wing just gray, Even the immature Bluebill's show some white there
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby suicidal_scaup » Sun Oct 21, 2012 3:33 pm

x2. Need to see the bill. I would say 90% sure hen redhead...
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby wanapasaki » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:05 pm

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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby quack wackr » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:15 pm

hen blue bill ... white ring around the beak
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby duckman27 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:16 pm

I'd go with hen redhead
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby captmike69 » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:32 pm

i have never shot either but judgeing by the pictures i am seeing im saying hen red head eclipse
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby wanapasaki » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:37 pm

In that case, as long as its not something too unique, time to pluck it lol. Thanks guys
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby Smith » Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:12 pm

Look at the tertiary wing feathers, the feathers at the trailing edge of the wing just inboard of the speculum. Tilt them in the light. If they show green iridescence, it's a ringneck duck. If it shows none, just gray/brown, it's a redhead. A game biologist a long time ago told me that's the easiest and most dependable way to differentiate between a hen redhead and a ringer. By the way, as has already been pointed out, it's not a bluebill. Immature or not, a bluebill has a white speculum.
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby wanapasaki » Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:42 pm

Its a redhead hen then, thanks smith!
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby quack wackr » Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:52 pm

its not a red head hen, red heads dont have a white ring around he base of there beak, anhttp://www.google.ca/search?q=red+hea ... d+duck+hen
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby duckman27 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:57 pm

quack wackr wrote:its not a red head hen, red heads dont have a white ring around he base of there beak, anhttp://www.google.ca/search?q=red+hea ... d+duck+hen


Weird thing is that every hen redhead we killed last year looked like what you are saying is not a hen redhead
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby loon » Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:45 am

hey quack wacker if you look at the pick of the duck on the running board you you can see the white stripe just behind the black tip of the bill that rules out a bluebill both ringer and redhead hens sometimes have the pale section of feathers behind the bill. that with no white on speculum it rules out a hen bill. pick up that lemaster method book it really helps with the tricky ones. here in the USA we have to be careful cuz we can only get 2redheads but 4 bluebills . and a whole 6bird limit of ringers
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby Duck Collector » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:45 pm

I think its a ringneck hen, You can tell by the wings and ring around the top of the bill. Its not a redhead hen...i shoot to many of those stupid things. They have a darker head and no ring.
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby JustinNH » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:11 am

Hen ringer... probably 1st year.
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby hensonly » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:01 pm

Ringneck looks like first year drake. Lots of black feathers around the lower neck upper breast. Yeah. Yeah it has a henlike markings on the face but that's what first year diver species plume out with. :thumbsup: lots of hunters think first year drakes are hens--but that's just because they don't know any better
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby wanapasaki » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:02 pm

Wish I didn't shoot the bugger till next year now
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby quack wackr » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:23 pm

duckman27 wrote:
quack wackr wrote:its not a red head hen, red heads dont have a white ring around he base of there beak, anhttp://www.google.ca/search?q=red+hea ... d+duck+hen


Weird thing is that every hen redhead we killed last year looked like what you are saying is not a hen redhead


look at the picture u just posted > that duck looks nothing liek the one in the pic, your pic the duck is clearly grey with a redish head, the duck in the other photo is clearly black ? i shoot tons of divers too and i never seen a red head that was black ?
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Re: immature scaup? Bird ID please

Postby Bill Herian » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:59 pm

My gut reaction was hen ringer but I can't say I've ever had a hen redhead in hand to refrence.

Like I would have known anyways.
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