jaker wrote: But kansas specifically in 5 years of goin out there, I've only seen 3 other oos groups, and the only stupid topwater bubbas I've seen have been locals.
You don't come to the state's most popular refuges, then. Last year I hunted at least 3 times a week....always on weekdays...every week, and fully 1/3 to 1/2 the trucks in the parking lots were OOS. For certain, the majority of trucks carried plates NOT from the county the refuge was in. I kept records to the numbers of trucks in the parking lots I used and where they were from, so my statements above are not WAGs.
Oh, and a fair share of the azzhats we encountered were from.....out of state.
In fact, the very worst
of the jackwagons were not local at all. Bottom line: some of the nicest and
some of the worst were non-locals. So, they about average out to the same.
Glad you guys enjoyed your trip here. Hope your next trip doesn't include copping attitudes with the locals because you think we are all stupid topwater bubbas. We consider OOS'ers like you our guests, and we don't appreciate disrespect from our guests.
If we come across as stupid topwater bubbas, it might be 'cause you are getting back what you project. Treat us respectfully, and I guarantee you'll be respected in return. We can be gracious hosts, or we can be territorial; it's up to you.
Well, my experience has been different than yours, I can say that I wasn't walking around parking lots writing down tag numbers and keeping records, so I'm sure your observations are more accurate than mine....
with that being said, I've never really run into a ton of dumb behavior. More of what I was referring to is lack of skill, awful calling, tendency to pass shoot, etc. Which is all good and well, I can deal with lack of knowledge and seasoning. And I've seen a ton of that, like probly over half of the hunters I have encountered out there. But once again, this kinda stuff doesn't tick me off its just a different approach.
I've only ran into two major issues in my time spent in ks. One was oppening morning in SE ks two years ago. Myself and one other guy had driven 14hrs out there, scouted for about half a day the day before, found a great spot, where the birds wanted to be. We hadn't slept since getting up for work/school the previous morning. And around midnight trucks started showing up, so we went on out into the marsh to claim our spot. We proceeded to sit there for 7 hrs shining people off before shooting light. And most people moved on a respectful distance. about 30 minutes before daylight a group of 5 came in and started walking straight towards us. When we shined them off, we could hear them cussing about how it was their spot, and so on. But finally we could hear them turn around and start walking away (or so we thought). Turns out that they had just walked back towards the levvy a little ways. We didn't even realize they were still there, until they started blowing what sounded like a kazoo right before shooting light. While they were doing this we had a group of 20ish mallards working and about to drop in the decoys. We got them to sit down, and had about 2 minutes left until shooting time. Well the kazoo blowers decided it was time, and let loose on some birds way off. For the rest of the morning they proceeded to shoot at any birds that came off the refuge within 100yds. They were directly in the flight path to our spot, and we literally didn't get a shot off in the first hour of daylight. Finally we started workin some more birds, and had them cupping in, when these azz hats saw that, they let loose on them at well over a hundred yards. When they finally left at 10am, we started killing birds, and managed to scratch out 9 in the next hour or so. They had shot over a box of shells each and only killed 2 birds.......
so, I guess all this to say, those were local boys, and the one other similar experience was local boys. These things happen anywhere, and I'm glad to say, after that experience I have found that if you avoid opening weekend, you can pretty much keep your distance just fine.
this past trip, we did not have another duck hunter within sight of us the entire weekend...
If you think, I "copped" an attitude, get over yourself. I am one of the most respectful hunters you will ever meet, I can promise you that I have never set up within 250yds of another hunter, if he was already there. I never stated that yall are a bunch of topwaters, what I did say, is kansas has one of the easiest hunting environments. You don't have to have a boat, truck, tons of decoys, or be good on a call to kill some birds. If you have waders, a mojo, and a couple decoys, you can go kill a few birds most days without scouting. Due to this, I do believe there is a different mentality and standard for the average kansas hunter. I don't think all are like this, but I think its probly a higher percentage than say, arkansas, where you need to be a heck of a caller, and have a boat, to kill a lot of birds. Its just easier to jump into out your way, and the lesser challenge creates more intermediate hunters. just my opinon.