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Question about south jersey ducks

Postby PADuck » Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:32 am

Has anyone ever shot or heard of people shooting mottled ducks. My buddy shot a duck we thought was a black but the speculum is blue and it has a small white strip at the top and bottom of it. When looking at pictures a mottled duck looks exactly like the one he shot
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby Gil.F » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:23 pm

it's a posability , but we have killed blackducks with white in there wings , i call them locals your canidian red leggers wont have the white got any pic's ???
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby PADuck » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:14 pm

Did some more research and its not a mottled I am pretty sure it's a
Hybrid mallard black. A true black wont have any white in the speculum
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby papageno » Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:34 pm

Correct PA - hybrid, I believe it counts toward the mallard limit (definitely not the blackie limit). I've been looking at the Maine forum, and they shoot them frequently up in New England.
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby DrakeH2oFowl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 4:38 pm

Mottled ducks are a southeastern/gulf specie year-round. They're typically down in Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Miss, etc. Sounds to me it was a hybrid AMBD x MALL. If one WAS to be shot up this way, it'd definitely be a vagrant & unlikely IMO. It's tough to say though because most hunters wouldn't be able to tell the difference, considering most have issues ID'ing ducks as it is. :no:
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby PAwingshooter » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:14 pm

I'm not a duck expert, or anything even close to an expert. I shot this yesterday and immediately noticed a little bit of white on the wings, which I don't remember on the other black ducks I shot in a different spot. Is this normal, or do you think this might be a hybrid? Notice a slight bit of green in the head.
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby papageno » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:47 pm

Hybrid... consider it a bonus bird, you can continue shooting at black ducks (as long as the game warden is educated enough to figure it out).
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby jerseydutch » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:03 pm

WHITE on the top of the speculum indicates that it is not a pure black duck. Pure black ducks can have white on the bottom of the speculum. Pawingshooter that is a Black duck/mallard hybrid, being black duck dominant in the picture.
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby FOWLGAL » Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:30 pm

Dutch,

If that is being black duck dominant in the picture would that then count as your black duck or would you be able to count as a mallard??
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby dirtyj » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:05 pm

It just counts as a "duck" toward your 6 duck limit. Does not go against black duck or mallard limit.
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby PADuck » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:51 pm

I have shot hybrids before but this one my buddy shot doesn't have any green in the head and the bill looks to be a drake all yellowish green. I said its a hen black/ hybrid from my knowledge and its nearly impossible to tell mottled from blacks from Mexican mallards if you don't shoot all of them. If you look at a picture of a Mexican mallard my buddy's duck looks exactly like it but if you ask me I would say that would be impossible
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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby DrakeH2oFowl » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:57 pm

dirtyj wrote:It just counts as a "duck" toward your 6 duck limit. Does not go against black duck or mallard limit.


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Re: Question about south jersey ducks

Postby FowlHooked » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:51 am

Shot one few wks back at dividing ck. My buddy thought from pict was a black but i said same thing hybrid with all the white in wings and the it had alot of hen mallard coloring. Orange in the bill, lighter tan coloring in the body ect but did have some blaxk duck resemblane as well. To me went as a hen mallard
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