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Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:31 pm

I want to tell you about John Doerr...

L. John Doerr (born June 29, 1951) is an American venture capitalist at Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers in Menlo Park, California, in Silicon Valley. In February 2009, Doerr was appointed a member of the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board to provide the President and his administration with advice and counsel in trying to fix America's economic downturn.[2]As of March 2013, Forbes ranked Doerr as the 527th richest person in the world, with a net worth of US $2.7 billion.[1]


He currently serves on the boards of Google, Amyris Biotech, Bloom Energy, Coursera, Essence Healthcare, Flipboard, FloDesign Wind Turbines, iControl, mCube, Renmatix and Quantumscape. Doerr led Kleiner Perkins's $150M investment in Twitter.[4] His investment philosophy is "no conflict, no interest."[5]


It is believed that John Doerr has invested more into green energy than any other individual citizen. Hundreds of millions dollars.

The President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, originally the President's Economic Recovery Advisory Board, is a panel of non-governmental experts from business, labor, academia and elsewhere that President of the United States Barack Obama created on February 6, 2009. The board reports regularly to Obama and his economic team on possible ways to improve the nation's economy


President’s Jobs Council recommends an “All-in” energy strategy; from fossil fuels and pipelines, to efficiency, renewables and vehicle electrification
18 January 2012
In its 2011 year-end report, Road Map to Renewal, the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness (Jobs Council) made a number of recommendations to create jobs in the short run and improve US competitiveness over the long term. Very broadly, the report lays out an agenda to “Invest in Our Future” through education and innovation, “Build on Our Strengths” in the critical sectors of energy and manufacturing, and “Play to Win” by making overdue tax and regulatory reforms to stay competitive.
More specifically, in the energy sector, the Jobs Council, which defined the challenge there as energy availability and security, recommended what it called an “All-in” strategy. The All-in strategy is intended to optimize all US energy resources while promoting efficiency and driving innovation and investment in new technologies such as renewables and vehicle electrification.
Every business leader knows the basic principles of risk management: Diversify your portfolio and reduce your exposure to unacceptable outcomes. America must do likewise. An all-in approach is imperative if we hope to reduce our reliance on foreign oil and create a more diverse electricity generation portfolio. We need innovative, affordable and reliable energy solutions for the 21st century, a set of investments that will meet our energy needs today while creating job opportunities and economic prosperity for our future.

The Council’s recommendations for energy policy, which reflect current policy discussions in Congress and within the administration, are aimed to achieve energy resilience and diversity. America needs to: optimize use of all of its natural resources while protecting public health and the environment; support efficiency measures in both electricity generation and transportation; and drive energy innovation and investment from basic invention to industry scale-up.

...It will also require cooperation among industry participants, regulators and environmental advocates. Continuing to deliver inexpensive and reliable energy is going to require the United States to optimize all of its natural resources and construct pathways (pipelines, transmission and distribution) to deliver electricity and fuel.

The Council recognizes the important safety and environmental concerns surrounding these types of projects, but now more than ever, the jobs and economic and energy security benefits of these energy projects require us to tackle the issues head-on and to expeditiously, though cautiously, move forward on projects that can support hundreds of thousands of jobs.

...while other countries like China and Germany are stepping up their energy R&D spending, the US budget crisis threatens even current levels of publicly funded energy R&D. Cuts in this area would be terribly shortsighted. Because energy entails huge capital investments in projects that often last decades, utilities have traditionally shied away from making big investments in energy R&D or buying into new technologies. If the United States wants to build an energy infrastructure for the 21st century and remain globally competitive in energy technologies, we need to increase, not decrease, vital public and private investments in energy research, development and deployment.

—“Road Map to Renewal”
The Jobs Council made three overarching recommendations for the energy sector:
1. Optimize use of all US natural resources while protecting public health and the environment. The Council said that while it believes the United States, as well as the rest of the world, needs to move deliberately and cost-effectively towards greater proportions of renewable and low-carbon forms of energy, that transition is a long-term one. Traditional forms of fossil energy will continue to be important to the economy during the transition, it emphasized.
The council recommended:
Allowing more access to oil, natural gas and coal opportunities on federal lands. Where sources of shale natural gas have been uncovered, federal, state and local authorities should encourage its safe and responsible extraction.
While the administration has supported holding additional lease sales and evaluating new areas for drilling, the report notes, further expanding and expediting the domestic production of fossil fuels both offshore and onshore (in conjunction with more electric and natural gas vehicles) will reduce America’s reliance on foreign oil and the huge outflow of US dollars this reliance entails.
In addition, the Council said, policies that encourage rapid lease development while emphasizing the highest safety standards will ensure companies responsibly drill for natural gas or oil and mine for coal or other our minerals in federal areas in a timely manner.
As the largest owner of land in the country, the US government should make more areas available for renewable energy development.
The federal government should also streamline the permitting process.
The Council recognizes that providing access to more areas for drilling, mining and renewable energy development is controversial, but, given the current economic situation, we believe it’s necessary to tap America’s assets in a safe and responsible manner. Additionally, policies that facilitate the safe, thoughtful and timely development of pipeline, transmission and distribution projects are necessary to facilitate the delivery of America’s fuel and electricity and maintain the reliability of our nation’s energy system. Over the long term, we expect that innovation and technological advancements will greatly reduce America’s reliance on fossil fuels. Until then, however, we need to be all in.

—“Road Map to Renewal”
2. Support efficiency measures in electricity and transportation. Any energy strategy would be incomplete, the report said, if it relied solely on existing supply and the promise of innovations in production.
We must reduce our overall energy dependence through bold and achievable efficiency gains. If we pursue this agenda creatively, we’ll not only save on energy costs, but also capture an opportunity to lead in emerging efficiency technologies, while creating tens of thousands of new jobs and reducing emissions. To stretch our domestic resources, the United States should continue to promote energy- and fuel-efficiency measures.

—“Road Map to Renewal”
The Council suggests that real estate agents and auditors should incorporate energy audits into the standard practice for buying, selling and valuing a home and continuing to provide innovative financing options for homeowners undertaking retrofits. For the industrial sector, the Council encourages adoption of energy management best practices—such as empowering companywide energy managers and improving operations and maintenance to reduce energy use—that can greatly reduce the energy intensity of their work.....




Hmmm... :huh:

That's interesting, John, you want us to "invest" (give) tax payer money to the companies in which a large portion of your fortune is invested?

I wonder why.

What was it that Martha Stewart went to jail for, again?
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Re: John Doerr

Postby ctdeathfrombelow » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:13 pm

Martha Stewart went to jail for not cooperating with the FBI......
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Re: John Doerr

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:17 pm

ctdeathfrombelow wrote:Martha Stewart went to jail for not cooperating with the FBI......


Insider trading?
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Re: John Doerr

Postby ScaupHunter » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:19 pm

How does coal fit into his plan?
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Re: John Doerr

Postby ctdeathfrombelow » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:25 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
ctdeathfrombelow wrote:Martha Stewart went to jail for not cooperating with the FBI......


Insider trading?

Nope....lol. She lied to authorities about knowing about it. She was never found to be involved with it.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:29 pm

ctdeathfrombelow wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
ctdeathfrombelow wrote:Martha Stewart went to jail for not cooperating with the FBI......


Insider trading?

Nope....lol. She lied to authorities about knowing about it. She was never found to be involved with it.


Yeah, what has Obama et' al done?
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Re: John Doerr

Postby slowshooter » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:21 pm

He's a good guy. Determined. Smart. Really understands what is going to make a difference when it comes to tech.
Was a customer of a start up of his. He was present and provided them with great guidance.

You can hate on him all day. He'll just sit by his pool, have something to drink, and plan his next investment.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:54 pm

slowshooter wrote:He's a good guy. Determined. Smart. Really understands what is going to make a difference when it comes to tech.
Was a customer of a start up of his. He was present and provided them with great guidance.

You can hate on him all day. He'll just sit by his pool, have something to drink, and plan his next investment.


This is no discredit to his investment prowess, but you are a fool if you can't see the immediate conflict of interest between his involvement in the two.

You refuse to see the truth behind the scam that is renewable energy.

You have once again laughed in the face of reality, and if God is willing I hope you have not and will not reproduce as they are destined to be a blind follower of the morally obtuse, just like their father(?).

Slow, you have lost the respect of nearly everyone on DHC because of your reprehensible obtuseness. Many of them leaders in their field and far smarter than you could imagine. When you find yourself siding with the scum of the earth and opposed to the more brilliant individuals in our society, you should look in the mirror because you can't deny the refutable evidence for ever. when that day comes you will realize that you are amongst the scum and are indeed judged by the company that you keep.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby cartervj » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:56 pm

so ramming and jamming from the liberal side is acceptable

ideologue :lol3:
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Re: John Doerr

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:13 pm

I should point out that, the group came very close to getting it right.

Very close, but suggesting the ramping up of an immature industry through government subsidization, while admitting it is still in the R&D stage of development, is just stupidity.

A more long term solution (250+ years) is not only viable, but the right choice.
Of course, Obama chose to go the opposite and ignore all of the sensible suggestions made by the panel and go with all in green energy growth and destruction fossil fuels industry for political expediency.

Oh how great our "brilliant" leader is! :bow:
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Re: John Doerr

Postby boney fingers » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:26 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:I should point out that, the group came very close to getting it right.

Very close, but suggesting the ramping up of an immature industry through government subsidization, while admitting it is still in the R&D stage of development, is just stupidity.

A more long term solution (250+ years) is not only viable, but the right choice.
Of course, Obama chose to go the opposite and ignore all of the sensible suggestions made by the panel and go with all in green energy growth and destruction fossil fuels industry for political expediency.

Oh how great our "brilliant" leader is! :bow:



Very brilliant if your goal is to destroy a nation.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby Indaswamp » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:00 pm

cartervj wrote:so ramming and jamming from the liberal side is acceptable

ideologue :lol3:

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Re: John Doerr

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:30 am

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:He's a good guy. Determined. Smart. Really understands what is going to make a difference when it comes to tech.
Was a customer of a start up of his. He was present and provided them with great guidance.

You can hate on him all day. He'll just sit by his pool, have something to drink, and plan his next investment.


This is no discredit to his investment prowess, but you are a fool if you can't see the immediate conflict of interest between his involvement in the two.


I never have a problem disagreeing with you because candidly, you are for the most part wrong. You're a reverse divining rod, every time you approach the truth you have to turn away. It's like clockwork… :yes:

You refuse to see the truth behind the scam that is renewable energy.


Hey, all you have to do is post up that proof of scamming. Go for it. I assure you I will read it even if you can't. :lol3:

You have once again laughed in the face of reality, and if God is willing I hope you have not and will not reproduce as they are destined to be a blind follower of the morally obtuse, just like their father(?).


LOL! I have like 47 kids. I'm training them to be liberal commandoes. When your precious conservative institutions collapse you can always survive on the free range chicken sandwiches and fair trade coffee that we'll be selling at exorbitant prices. You will weep because they are delicious and also because we cooked the chicken and heated the coffee with the very power of the SUN itself! :lol3: :lol3:

Slow, you have lost the respect of nearly everyone on DHC because of your reprehensible obtuseness.


My favorite color is cheese! :lol3:


Many of them leaders in their field and far smarter than you could imagine.


You aren't one of them? Dear lord I have been wrong for all this time? (About .5 milliseconds worth) :lol3:

When you find yourself siding with the scum of the earth and opposed to the more brilliant individuals in our society,


Haaa haaaa! If you go further around that bend any faster you are going to run up your own butt. :lol3:


you should look in the mirror because you can't deny the refutable evidence for ever. when that day comes you will realize that you are amongst the scum and are indeed judged by the company that you keep.



Well, look at it this way. I will be judged less because you are on this forum. But, on the plus side, people will think better of you because I'm here. Bask in it. :lol3: :lol3:
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Re: John Doerr

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:31 am

cartervj wrote:so ramming and jamming from the liberal side is acceptable

ideologue :lol3:



Get him in court. If he has broken the law then let him pay the consequences. :hammer:
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Re: John Doerr

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:49 am

slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:He's a good guy. Determined. Smart. Really understands what is going to make a difference when it comes to tech.
Was a customer of a start up of his. He was present and provided them with great guidance.

You can hate on him all day. He'll just sit by his pool, have something to drink, and plan his next investment.


This is no discredit to his investment prowess, but you are a fool if you can't see the immediate conflict of interest between his involvement in the two.


I never have a problem disagreeing with you because candidly, you are for the most part wrong. You're a reverse divining rod, every time you approach the truth you have to turn away. It's like clockwork… :yes:

You refuse to see the truth behind the scam that is renewable energy.


Hey, all you have to do is post up that proof of scamming. Go for it. I assure you I will read it even if you can't. :lol3:

You have once again laughed in the face of reality, and if God is willing I hope you have not and will not reproduce as they are destined to be a blind follower of the morally obtuse, just like their father(?).


LOL! I have like 47 kids. I'm training them to be liberal commandoes. When your precious conservative institutions collapse you can always survive on the free range chicken sandwiches and fair trade coffee that we'll be selling at exorbitant prices. You will weep because they are delicious and also because we cooked the chicken and heated the coffee with the very power of the SUN itself! :lol3: :lol3:

Slow, you have lost the respect of nearly everyone on DHC because of your reprehensible obtuseness.


My favorite color is cheese! :lol3:


Many of them leaders in their field and far smarter than you could imagine.


You aren't one of them? Dear lord I have been wrong for all this time? (About .5 milliseconds worth) :lol3:

When you find yourself siding with the scum of the earth and opposed to the more brilliant individuals in our society,


Haaa haaaa! If you go further around that bend any faster you are going to run up your own butt. :lol3:


you should look in the mirror because you can't deny the refutable evidence for ever. when that day comes you will realize that you are amongst the scum and are indeed judged by the company that you keep.



Well, look at it this way. I will be judged less because you are on this forum. But, on the plus side, people will think better of you because I'm here. Bask in it. :lol3: :lol3:


Slow, I posted the proof. He is heavily invested in green energy and then used an appointed position of power to suggest the government misappropriate tax payer funds.

If you can't see that you are truly blind.

And no I'm not one of them, I never claimed to be.

I can't wait for the system to collapse under the weight of you and those like you.
It will be quite fun to watch as you and them run around like a free range chicken with their heads cut off.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby cartervj » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:30 am

slowshooter wrote:
cartervj wrote:so ramming and jamming from the liberal side is acceptable

ideologue :lol3:



Get him in court. If he has broken the law then let him pay the consequences. :hammer:



has nothing to do with legality, you are for him and his actions cause it suits your narrative, period :welcome:
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Re: John Doerr

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:16 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:He's a good guy. Determined. Smart. Really understands what is going to make a difference when it comes to tech.
Was a customer of a start up of his. He was present and provided them with great guidance.

You can hate on him all day. He'll just sit by his pool, have something to drink, and plan his next investment.


This is no discredit to his investment prowess, but you are a fool if you can't see the immediate conflict of interest between his involvement in the two.


I never have a problem disagreeing with you because candidly, you are for the most part wrong. You're a reverse divining rod, every time you approach the truth you have to turn away. It's like clockwork… :yes:

You refuse to see the truth behind the scam that is renewable energy.


Hey, all you have to do is post up that proof of scamming. Go for it. I assure you I will read it even if you can't. :lol3:

You have once again laughed in the face of reality, and if God is willing I hope you have not and will not reproduce as they are destined to be a blind follower of the morally obtuse, just like their father(?).


LOL! I have like 47 kids. I'm training them to be liberal commandoes. When your precious conservative institutions collapse you can always survive on the free range chicken sandwiches and fair trade coffee that we'll be selling at exorbitant prices. You will weep because they are delicious and also because we cooked the chicken and heated the coffee with the very power of the SUN itself! :lol3: :lol3:

Slow, you have lost the respect of nearly everyone on DHC because of your reprehensible obtuseness.


My favorite color is cheese! :lol3:


Many of them leaders in their field and far smarter than you could imagine.


You aren't one of them? Dear lord I have been wrong for all this time? (About .5 milliseconds worth) :lol3:

When you find yourself siding with the scum of the earth and opposed to the more brilliant individuals in our society,


Haaa haaaa! If you go further around that bend any faster you are going to run up your own butt. :lol3:


you should look in the mirror because you can't deny the refutable evidence for ever. when that day comes you will realize that you are amongst the scum and are indeed judged by the company that you keep.



Well, look at it this way. I will be judged less because you are on this forum. But, on the plus side, people will think better of you because I'm here. Bask in it. :lol3: :lol3:


Slow, I posted the proof. He is heavily invested in green energy and then used an appointed position of power to suggest the government misappropriate tax payer funds.


Did he break the law? No. Do you understand that alternative energy is a market that we are losing to china? We'll lose it just like we lost solar panels because they want to own the market and will fund it until they own it all.

China can partner or flat out own a company that we have to compete against. We can't operated by paying our human capital like a prison work force, nor do does our government partner with a company as happens elsewhere. We get tax breaks and grants. That's it. So the next time you want the USA to win a market you better get with Business Jesus and have him explain that is going to be expensive and how getting funding would actually work.


If you can't see that you are truly blind.


I see what you are saying and you are just a low information guy when it comes to understanding what a domestic business faces internationally.

And no I'm not one of them, I never claimed to be.


No sweat, I was just poking ya in jest. Not to prove who's best.

I can't wait for the system to collapse under the weight of you and those like you.
It will be quite fun to watch as you and them run around like a free range chicken with their heads cut off.


When the system collapses guess what. All your trickle down dreams will die. Me? I'll just go start a company and hopefully sell few of something.

Who knows, we may all be running around like chickens or not. We'll see.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:58 pm

slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:He's a good guy. Determined. Smart. Really understands what is going to make a difference when it comes to tech.
Was a customer of a start up of his. He was present and provided them with great guidance.

You can hate on him all day. He'll just sit by his pool, have something to drink, and plan his next investment.


This is no discredit to his investment prowess, but you are a fool if you can't see the immediate conflict of interest between his involvement in the two.


I never have a problem disagreeing with you because candidly, you are for the most part wrong. You're a reverse divining rod, every time you approach the truth you have to turn away. It's like clockwork… :yes:

You refuse to see the truth behind the scam that is renewable energy.


Hey, all you have to do is post up that proof of scamming. Go for it. I assure you I will read it even if you can't. :lol3:

You have once again laughed in the face of reality, and if God is willing I hope you have not and will not reproduce as they are destined to be a blind follower of the morally obtuse, just like their father(?).


LOL! I have like 47 kids. I'm training them to be liberal commandoes. When your precious conservative institutions collapse you can always survive on the free range chicken sandwiches and fair trade coffee that we'll be selling at exorbitant prices. You will weep because they are delicious and also because we cooked the chicken and heated the coffee with the very power of the SUN itself! :lol3: :lol3:

Slow, you have lost the respect of nearly everyone on DHC because of your reprehensible obtuseness.


My favorite color is cheese! :lol3:


Many of them leaders in their field and far smarter than you could imagine.


You aren't one of them? Dear lord I have been wrong for all this time? (About .5 milliseconds worth) :lol3:

When you find yourself siding with the scum of the earth and opposed to the more brilliant individuals in our society,


Haaa haaaa! If you go further around that bend any faster you are going to run up your own butt. :lol3:


you should look in the mirror because you can't deny the refutable evidence for ever. when that day comes you will realize that you are amongst the scum and are indeed judged by the company that you keep.



Well, look at it this way. I will be judged less because you are on this forum. But, on the plus side, people will think better of you because I'm here. Bask in it. :lol3: :lol3:


Slow, I posted the proof. He is heavily invested in green energy and then used an appointed position of power to suggest the government misappropriate tax payer funds.


Did he break the law? No. Do you understand that alternative energy is a market that we are losing to china? We'll lose it just like we lost solar panels because they want to own the market and will fund it until they own it all.

China can partner or flat out own a company that we have to compete against. We can't operated by paying our human capital like a prison work force, nor do does our government partner with a company as happens elsewhere. We get tax breaks and grants. That's it. So the next time you want the USA to win a market you better get with Business Jesus and have him explain that is going to be expensive and how getting funding would actually work.


If you can't see that you are truly blind.


I see what you are saying and you are just a low information guy when it comes to understanding what a domestic business faces internationally.

And no I'm not one of them, I never claimed to be.


No sweat, I was just poking ya in jest. Not to prove who's best.

I can't wait for the system to collapse under the weight of you and those like you.
It will be quite fun to watch as you and them run around like a free range chicken with their heads cut off.


When the system collapses guess what. All your trickle down dreams will die. Me? I'll just go start a company and hopefully sell few of something.

Who knows, we may all be running around like chickens or not. We'll see.


I've got one answer to all of your woes, slow, a truly free market where people get paid based on their merits and there worth, not what the government says their worth is.

No government in the world could compete with us when we met those criteria.

But you think big gov is the answer.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:05 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:I've got one answer to all of your woes, slow, a truly free market where people get paid based on their merits and there worth, not what the government says their worth is.


Well, right now you are being paid exactly what the government thinks you are worth. Where is the money going? In the other direction.

No government in the world could compete with us when we met those criteria.


*long fart noise* That's nonsense.

But you think big gov is the answer.


No, I the government that works for the people and not solely for the 1 percent is the right way to go. If it's functioning correctly it will be exactly the size it needs to be.
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Re: John Doerr

Postby WoodyWhiffingMG » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:04 pm

slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:I've got one answer to all of your woes, slow, a truly free market where people get paid based on their merits and there worth, not what the government says their worth is.


Well, right now you are being paid exactly what the government thinks you are worth. Where is the money going? In the other direction.

No government in the world could compete with us when we met those criteria.


*long fart noise* That's nonsense.

But you think big gov is the answer.


No, I the government that works for the people and not solely for the 1 percent is the right way to go. If it's functioning correctly it will be exactly the size it needs to be.


What I expected to hear, redistribute the wealth from those of us who have earned it to those who have not.

A good government is not involved in your everyday life!

Would you rather a boss who micromanages or one who doesn't?
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Postby slowshooter » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:03 pm

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
slowshooter wrote:
WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:I've got one answer to all of your woes, slow, a truly free market where people get paid based on their merits and there worth, not what the government says their worth is.


Well, right now you are being paid exactly what the government thinks you are worth. Where is the money going? In the other direction.

No government in the world could compete with us when we met those criteria.


*long fart noise* That's nonsense.

But you think big gov is the answer.


No, I the government that works for the people and not solely for the 1 percent is the right way to go. If it's functioning correctly it will be exactly the size it needs to be.


What I expected to hear, redistribute the wealth from those of us who have earned it to those who have not.


Okay, first off you heard that because you expected to hear it not because it was said. That pretty much summarizes your take on everything. As long as you can trot out a well worn trope that might fit a situation you do. Why? Because you're intellectually lazy or just can't do better.

Secondly. The wealth in this country has already been distributed. If you haven't figured it out by now, you and I live in a capitalist state and the rich live in a welfare state. They didn't earn all the middle classes' money. They took it with the full consent and cooperation of our own government.

Don't cry now that you have to foot the bill for the poor because you thought that the rich were going to trickle down riches if you gave them everything. You got left holding a poor man's nut sack and just don't want to admit you were wrong to support the people you did. The rich on the other hand think they got one over on you... Because in fact, they did.

A good government is not involved in your everyday life!


Apropos of nothing. Maybe you should just post a picture of Glen Beck or Ann Coulter. You'll feel better.

Would you rather a boss who micromanages or one who doesn't?


I would prefer a population that can admit it has been fooled... And takes steps to see that it never happens again.
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