Is this Racism? (Part 2)

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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby Chilidawg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:51 pm

ScaupHunter wrote:
Chilidawg wrote:Seriously people.

Think about what Hubbard is saying here

“… one of the stated purposes of school integration was to bring black students up to a level close to that of white students. But, to the great disappointment of everyone, the results of this theory worked exactly in reverse of its intended purpose, and instead of black students rising to the educational levels previously attained by white students, the white students dropped to the level of black students. To make matters worse the lack of discipline and ambition of black students soon became shared by their white classmates, and our educational system has been in a steady decline ever since.”


Do any of you seriously believe that garbage?

Basically what Hubbard is saying is: "blacks students are lazy and stupid and because of integration, white students are lazy and stupid now as well and it's all the fault of the black students."

Hubbard is a racist anal opening of the first degree and anyone who claims that Hubbard is correct is a racist analysis opening as well.


Reality got you focusing on your anal area there chili? :fingerpt: Keep your personal life just that personal. None of us want to know!


So, can I put you down as one of those who agrees with Hubbard's statement?

Do you really think that black students are lazy and stupid and that white students who associate with them are lazy and stupid as well?
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby cartervj » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:57 pm

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cartervj wrote:chilli is a little slow :lol3:


Wait, does that mean Slowshooter gets to call Chilidawg "Mini me" from now on??? :lol3:



kinda what I was thinking :lol3:
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:59 pm

Chilidawg wrote:Do you really think that black students are lazy and stupid and that white students who associate with them are lazy and stupid as well?
If we divide the U.S. up into 4 groups, one of them has to be the laziest and stupidest group and one has to be the most motivated and intelligent. Through the events of history and not DNA, that is blacks and Asians in the U.S., respectively. Do you disagree with this or do you believe all groups on average are exactly the same and the impact of whatever (racism, slavery, Jim Crow, social welfare system, race hustlers, etc.) you chose have had no effect? You can't have it both ways.

BTW, if you spit out the whites in suburbia from the whites in Appalachia, you get basically the same differences and for the same reasons as you get between the average black and the average white. Now am I racists for holding that opinion? :huh:
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby cartervj » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:02 pm

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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby Chilidawg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:17 pm

Jason Richwine of the Heritage Foundation wrote:

“The average IQ of immigrants in the United States is substantially lower than that of the white native population, and the difference is likely to persist over several generations.”

“The consequences are a lack of socioeconomic assimilation among low-IQ immigrant groups, more underclass behavior, less social trust, and an increase in the proportion of unskilled workers in the American labor market,” he writes. “Selecting high-IQ immigrants would ameliorate these problems in the U.S., while at the same time benefiting smart potential immigrants who lack educational access in their home countries.”

No one knows whether Hispanics will ever reach IQ parity with whites, but the prediction that new Hispanic immigrants will have low-IQ children and grandchildren is difficult to argue against.


I'm willing to bet that the odds are greater than Assa's 50/50 that most of you will fail to see the logical flaws and inherent bigotry in that statement.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby Chilidawg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:19 pm

cartervj wrote:
High Sierras wrote:
cartervj wrote:chilli is a little slow :lol3:


Wait, does that mean Slowshooter gets to call Chilidawg "Mini me" from now on??? :lol3:



kinda what I was thinking :lol3:


I'm thinking that you are unable to address the issue so you resort to insults.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby Chilidawg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:31 pm

[quote="SpinnerMan"]... all groups on average are exactly the same ...
and the impact of whatever (racism, slavery, Jim Crow, social welfare system, race hustlers, etc.)[quote]

All racial groups are basically the same.

Socio-economic factors, the poverty cycle, and environmental factors have huge impacts
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby SpinnerMan » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:45 pm

Chilidawg wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:... all groups on average are exactly the same ...
and the impact of whatever (racism, slavery, Jim Crow, social welfare system, race hustlers, etc.)


All racial groups are basically the same.

Socio-economic factors, the poverty cycle, and environmental factors have huge impacts

So based on the things that you have chosen to quote, are you even certain that you are in fundamental disagreement with the things that you have quoted? Not talking about poor choice of wording on a sensitive subject.

That is unless you are saying that the impacts of socio-economic factors, the poverty cycle, and environmental factors on all racial groups are basically the same.

You are not, are you?
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby assateague » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:01 pm

Chili is just repeatedly throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. Reminds me of a 4-year old girl asking her parents for a toy.

"Can I have this one?"
"No"
"What about this one?"
"No"
"Can I have this one, then?"
"No"

Keep trying, chili. It's nothing if not amusing. Maybe if you stomp your feet or throw yourself down in the middle is the racism aisle, kicking and screaming, you'll get what you want.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby Chilidawg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:56 pm

assateague wrote:Chili is just repeatedly throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. Reminds me of a 4-year old girl asking her parents for a toy.

"Can I have this one?"
"No"
"What about this one?"
"No"
"Can I have this one, then?"
"No"

Keep trying, chili. It's nothing if not amusing. Maybe if you stomp your feet or throw yourself down in the middle is the racism aisle, kicking and screaming, you'll get what you want.



Assa, you are engaging in your typical poo flinging response, I see.

If you don't want to address the issues that I raise, then don't bother posting.

Obviously, I am right, and you know it. Too bad you can't just admit it.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby Chilidawg » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:07 pm

SpinnerMan wrote:
Chilidawg wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:... all groups on average are exactly the same ...
and the impact of whatever (racism, slavery, Jim Crow, social welfare system, race hustlers, etc.)


All racial groups are basically the same.

Socio-economic factors, the poverty cycle, and environmental factors have huge impacts

So based on the things that you have chosen to quote, are you even certain that you are in fundamental disagreement with the things that you have quoted? Not talking about poor choice of wording on a sensitive subject.

That is unless you are saying that the impacts of socio-economic factors, the poverty cycle, and environmental factors on all racial groups are basically the same.

You are not, are you?


You are being deliberately obtuse.

You don't think that over 150 years of institutionalized descrimination has not had a profound effect?

Seriously?

Are you arguing that Hubbard's statements are not fundamentally flawed?
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby assateague » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:10 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby High Sierras » Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:17 pm

Chilidawg wrote:
cartervj wrote:
High Sierras wrote:
cartervj wrote:chilli is a little slow :lol3:


Wait, does that mean Slowshooter gets to call Chilidawg "Mini me" from now on??? :lol3:

kinda what I was thinking :lol3:

I'm thinking that you are unable to address the issue so you resort to insults.


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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby ScaupHunter » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:24 pm

I think I have figured out what is wrong with Chili. The voices in his head endlessly repeat they are all racist, they are all racist, they are all racist........... forever...

Just for reference chili, I like my voices better. They remind me to reload when my weapon runs low, and tell me where to look when I am passing by a hot.woman.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby cartervj » Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:16 pm

Chilidawg wrote:
cartervj wrote:
High Sierras wrote:
cartervj wrote:chilli is a little slow :lol3:


Wait, does that mean Slowshooter gets to call Chilidawg "Mini me" from now on??? :lol3:



kinda what I was thinking :lol3:


I'm thinking that you are unable to address the issue so you resort to insults.




what issue, you are the one screaming fire when there is not any sign of smoke :welcome:
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby cartervj » Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:35 pm

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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby ctdeathfrombelow » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:09 pm

Chilidawg wrote:
You are being deliberately obtuse.

You don't think that over 150 years of institutionalized descrimination has not had a profound effect?

Seriously?

Are you arguing that Hubbard's statements are not fundamentally flawed?

Sooo what about the 400+ years the Jews were enslaved and the years of discrimination to follow.... How has this not created an influx of Hassidic gang members....
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby assateague » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:37 am

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:


It's only black folks who can be discriminated against, CT. We all know that by now.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby ohioboy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:26 pm

assateague wrote::lol3: :lol3: :lol3:


It's only black folks who can be discriminated against, CT. We all know that by now.


Darn. I was just going to pull my Irish card.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby clampdaddy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:49 pm

ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote::lol3: :lol3: :lol3:


It's only black folks who can be discriminated against, CT. We all know that by now.


Darn. I was just going to pull my Irish card.


Wow, you mean one of those dirty micks sobered up long enough to figure out how to use a computer? Just kidding, but do you know the Irish handshake?......... :beer:
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby ohioboy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:52 pm

clampdaddy wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote::lol3: :lol3: :lol3:


It's only black folks who can be discriminated against, CT. We all know that by now.


Darn. I was just going to pull my Irish card.


Wow, you mean one of those dirty micks sobered up long enough to figure out how to use a computer? Just kidding, but do you know the Irish handshake?......... :beer:


:beer: No I have not.

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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby Indaswamp » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:21 pm

ohioboy wrote:
clampdaddy wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote::lol3: :lol3: :lol3:


It's only black folks who can be discriminated against, CT. We all know that by now.


Darn. I was just going to pull my Irish card.


Wow, you mean one of those dirty micks sobered up long enough to figure out how to use a computer? Just kidding, but do you know the Irish handshake?......... :beer:


:beer: No I have not.

Sober and computer are not near as fun as not so sober and computer.

Been a while since DHC has been graced with an Epic drunk posting meltdown....
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby ohioboy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:35 pm

Indaswamp wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
clampdaddy wrote:
ohioboy wrote:
assateague wrote::lol3: :lol3: :lol3:


It's only black folks who can be discriminated against, CT. We all know that by now.


Darn. I was just going to pull my Irish card.


Wow, you mean one of those dirty micks sobered up long enough to figure out how to use a computer? Just kidding, but do you know the Irish handshake?......... :beer:


:beer: No I have not.

Sober and computer are not near as fun as not so sober and computer.

Been a while since DHC has been graced with an Epic drunk posting meltdown....

No it tonight. Liver needs a break.
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby clampdaddy » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:26 pm

ohioboy wrote: No it tonight. Liver needs a break.

The liver is evil and it must be punished!
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Re: Is this Racism? (Part 2)

Postby SpinnerMan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:15 am

Chilidawg wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:
Chilidawg wrote:
SpinnerMan wrote:... all groups on average are exactly the same ...
and the impact of whatever (racism, slavery, Jim Crow, social welfare system, race hustlers, etc.)


All racial groups are basically the same.

Socio-economic factors, the poverty cycle, and environmental factors have huge impacts

So based on the things that you have chosen to quote, are you even certain that you are in fundamental disagreement with the things that you have quoted? Not talking about poor choice of wording on a sensitive subject.

That is unless you are saying that the impacts of socio-economic factors, the poverty cycle, and environmental factors on all racial groups are basically the same.

You are not, are you?


You are being deliberately obtuse.

You don't think that over 150 years of institutionalized descrimination has not had a profound effect?

Seriously?

Are you arguing that Hubbard's statements are not fundamentally flawed?

Flawed or not, you have presented nothing that makes them fundamentally racism which is the case you failed to make. You may be correct, but you have presented nothing that supports your premise. Evil people often use very clever and deceptive means to achieve their ends by making mostly true or it would be nice if it were true statements to deceive people and that is why I believe things are worse for minorities at this point.

You are playing right into the hands of the race hustlers because unless you make the PC arguments about the current state of affairs, you will be condemned as a racists (or an Uncle Tom, oreo, etc. if you are a minority) so just shut up and let the minorities rot on the Democrat/race hustler plantation. When the Democrats controlled the south we had slavery, segregation and Jim Crow. When those truly racist institutions could not withstand common decency, the Democrats have found another way to keep the black man down and now they give them their overwhelming loyalty and devotion for it. Of course, now most think they are sincerely looking out for the well being (even though they are failing horribly) of the minorities and are just the modern incarnation of the same old control freaks trying to control everything and doing horrible things to people's lives as a result of their incompetence, arrogance, and faux-compassion.

However, if you want to apply basic Darwinian logic, of the subset of the population captured and sent into slavery, would they have been disproportionately the best and brightest of the population? :huh:

If you want to debate that fine, it is irrelevant. BTW, what point would it serve if you had to concede that the descendant of slaves on average had significantly lower IQ, motivation, etc.? NOTHING if we treat all individuals equally because even if true there is the entire spectrum of individuals from Einstein to my dog.
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