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Re: Detroit?

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:53 am

WoodyWhiffingMG wrote:
cartervj wrote:The Government created that system, too bad you support that same Government.

The Governments motto is to penalize (tax) what they dislike and incentivize what they do like.
The Government NEEDS to be necessary to GROW, kinda simple.


You know the sad thing is, it is needed for economic growth.

It is/was meant to provide a sense of national security. Without that panic and fear will not allow growth.

The perversion modern day welfare/subsidization pro people have put on federal government has caused insecurity and stifled growth.



Darn those poor people for destroying 14 trillion dollars during the financial crisis. :lol3:

Brilliant! :lol3:
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Re: Detroit?

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:55 am

tenfingergrip wrote:Ever notice how Slowmind hides under a rock when Sheriff High Sierras rides into town!! :sad:



You're from NC so no one expects you to make sense. :hammer: :lol3:
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Re: Detroit?

Postby slowshooter » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:00 am

SpinnerMan wrote:
ScaupHunter wrote:What amazes and amuses me is how otherwise intelligent people are actually stupid enough to try and repeat epic failures.
Only intelligent people can believe the dumbest ideas. They have the ability to convince themselves through twisted and convoluted logic that what is obvious common sense is not true.


You should try to explain that the GOP house. How many times have they tried to derail Obamacare? About a jillion.
Talk about crazy not recognizing crazy....

ScaupHunter wrote:Then how we would afford to pay someone to check them constantly, and how they figured the funding would work since we had a recent layoff here.

If he was smart, he would have had the convoluted and twisted logic that was a tangled web of inconsistencies that wouldn't solve the problem, but sorting out the entire web of self deceit couldn't be untangled to show the simple common sense of why it would not work.


Mixedupgoobersaywhat? LOL!

The simple answer to the funding problem.
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Hey shouldn't you be out planning a civil war? :lol3:
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Re: Detroit?

Postby TomKat » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:05 am

Detroit, rock city!

Get up! every bodies gonna leave their seat!


You gonna lost your mind in Detroit, rock city.....
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Re: Detroit?

Postby clampdaddy » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:53 am

slowshooter wrote:
clampdaddy wrote:
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clampdaddy wrote:Slow, Walmart is the shoppers equivalent to McDonalds. McDonalds makes a killing but no matter how much they make, the guy that works the fryer isn't going to be compensated as well as a cook at Smith & Wollenskys.



I never said he should. But what I am saying is that cramming down work hours so employees don't qualify for benefits, and are forced to seek them - as well as additional assistance from the local community, is about a skeevy as it gets.

The conservatives want it both ways. They complain loudly about how the poor take advantage of government help and can't climb out of poverty - then praise businesses for dodging the responsibility of the giving employees a decent wage and benefits. It's not like the nation hasn't noticed that bit of dissonance.


Find a large store that doesn't hire part timers. They all use them because when things get slow you can't just send home a full time employee that was signed on to do a minimum 40 hour week. Any part timer knows full well when they are hired that they are not going to get benefits. Their hours are now being cut........just like everybody knew would happen once Obamacare became a reality. So now they still don't have benefits......just like they knew the case would be when they signed on, but now they are are alsolooking at a fine from the federal government for not having health coverage, and they are working less hours so they have even less money to pay the fine. So who's the villain?

We use temps where I work too. They knew the deal when they signed on. The smart ones work hard and apply for full time positions as they become available. The not so smart ones won't even take advantage of things like a free to them on the job training course I do for their class A commercial drivers license, but even those guys are wishing that Obama would quit trying to help them. I had never seen so many smiles at work when they announced that the temps hours weren't going to be cut for a while because a big part of Obamacare got put off for a year.


Obamacare didn't drive companies to do as described over the past 10 years.


And Walmart isn't the first company to utilize part time workers, but Obamacare is why those part timers are having their hours cut.
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Re: Detroit?

Postby assateague » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:08 pm

slowshooter wrote:
clampdaddy wrote:
slowshooter wrote:
clampdaddy wrote:Slow, Walmart is the shoppers equivalent to McDonalds. McDonalds makes a killing but no matter how much they make, the guy that works the fryer isn't going to be compensated as well as a cook at Smith & Wollenskys.



I never said he should. But what I am saying is that cramming down work hours so employees don't qualify for benefits, and are forced to seek them - as well as additional assistance from the local community, is about a skeevy as it gets.

The conservatives want it both ways. They complain loudly about how the poor take advantage of government help and can't climb out of poverty - then praise businesses for dodging the responsibility of the giving employees a decent wage and benefits. It's not like the nation hasn't noticed that bit of dissonance.


Find a large store that doesn't hire part timers. They all use them because when things get slow you can't just send home a full time employee that was signed on to do a minimum 40 hour week. Any part timer knows full well when they are hired that they are not going to get benefits. Their hours are now being cut........just like everybody knew would happen once Obamacare became a reality. So now they still don't have benefits......just like they knew the case would be when they signed on, but now they are are alsolooking at a fine from the federal government for not having health coverage, and they are working less hours so they have even less money to pay the fine. So who's the villain?

We use temps where I work too. They knew the deal when they signed on. The smart ones work hard and apply for full time positions as they become available. The not so smart ones won't even take advantage of things like a free to them on the job training course I do for their class A commercial drivers license, but even those guys are wishing that Obama would quit trying to help them. I had never seen so many smiles at work when they announced that the temps hours weren't going to be cut for a while because a big part of Obamacare got put off for a year.


Obamacare didn't drive companies to do as described over the past 10 years.





Nope. It just incentivized them to do it.
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Re: Detroit?

Postby High Sierras » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:11 pm

slowshooter wrote:
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clampdaddy wrote:Slow, Walmart is the shoppers equivalent to McDonalds. McDonalds makes a killing but no matter how much they make, the guy that works the fryer isn't going to be compensated as well as a cook at Smith & Wollenskys.

I never said he should. But what I am saying is that cramming down work hours so employees don't qualify for benefits, and are forced to seek them - as well as additional assistance from the local community, is about a skeevy as it gets.

Can we get a big thank you for obamacare???

So its now 'skeevy' in your opinion for Walmart (or any other business) to try and maintain it's financial ability to conduct business in the face of a ridiculous federal law on social engineering? Economists and business leaders warned this would be only one of the consequences of enacting the 'affordable' care act. Businesses are in business to make money, not provide jobs for the poor or middle classes. Saddle them down with silly regulations on how many hours they can work an employee before being charged more, and it's simple economics that they will find the point at which they get the most return for the least expense.

Take two full-time $10 an hour employees, working 80 hours a week total. Along comes a law that says you have to pay an additional what, $1,800 a month? to the cost of having the 2 employees there for their health care premiums. Or, you can cut their hours to 29 a week, and add a third $10 an hour employee that will bring the three employee's hours worked to 87 a week (almost a 10% increase in staffing) and save a couple hundred bucks a month by legally avoiding the additional expense of obamacare. It probably took businesses about 30 seconds to decide what direction to go with hiring and hours when they got a copy of the aca. Pelosi and the rest coudn't be bothered to read it, but I guarantee you plenty of business owners read all 2,700+ pages of it.

Whining that they're not willing to take a loss to be a part of the glorious socialist utopian dream, whining that they're horrible dirty money grubbin' thieves because they won't give their hard earned $$$ away to promote barry's socal equality dream is just sucking bitter grapes, grow up.
slowshooter wrote:The conservatives want it both ways. They complain loudly about how the poor take advantage of government help and can't climb out of poverty - then praise businesses for dodging the responsibility of the giving employees a decent wage and benefits. It's not like the nation hasn't noticed that bit of dissonance.

Slow, I'm not sure if you ever took an economics class, or even learned about the concept of a free market system, but in our system of commerce, It was NEVER businesses "responsibility" to give the masses a decent wage and benefits.

No dissonance at all between allowing business owners the freedom to choose how to run their business and allowing the welfare crowd the freedom to choose to live their lives in poverty. The dissonance comes from the ones who want to 'share' the wealth around. You know, the guy who's busy thowing billions of taxpayer dollars to the poor (ie, the democrat base) while he goes on multi-million dollar vacations to get away from the stress of being santa claus 365 days a year.

So you throw in with Woody. Honestly I thought you had more character.

Really... is that the best you could lob back? A limp-wristed attempt to question my character?

How about you defend your statement that a business, in business to make a profit for their investors, is 'skeevy' (in your stated opinion) for using the business laws and tax code to determine the most cost efficient way to run their HR department, and then implementing those cost saving measures... Go ahead, I'd love to hear your reasoning.
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Re: Detroit?

Postby tenfingergrip » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:53 pm

High Sierras wrote:
slowshooter wrote:
High Sierras wrote:[quote="slowshooter

How about you defend your statement that a business, in business to make a profit for their investors, is 'skeevy' (in your stated opinion) for using the business laws and tax code to determine the most cost efficient way to run their HR department, and then implementing those cost saving measures... Go ahead, I'd love to hear your reasoning.


Reasoning,.....? Reasoning......? There's no such thing as Reasoning in the 'slow' minds! They think all that needs to be done is hold hands and sing ' kum ba ya', vote liberal, and everything will be 'rainbow connections'!
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Re: Detroit?

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Re: Detroit?

Postby assateague » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:28 am

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Re: Detroit?

Postby Indaswamp » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:10 am

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Re: Detroit?

Postby cartervj » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:45 pm

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Re: Detroit?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:28 pm

That article was hilarious. The premise was silly just based on geography, population density and access. :lol3:
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Re: Detroit?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 12:43 pm

garyt wrote:
slowshooter wrote:That article was hilarious. The premise was silly just based on geography, population density and access. :lol3:


There are other areas in the world with similar geography, high population density and access, but theyre white and therefore there is less crime.

Your response was pretty silly.



Find a predominately black area that stretches across 11 states like Appalachia and then do a one to one comparison to white Appalachia. That way you won't be comparing the crime rate in a highly populated area with the crime rate in a community has 3 families in 25 barely accessible square miles.
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Re: Detroit?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:35 pm

garyt wrote:Presidential pre-candidate Lyndon LaRouche



I stopped reading right there. :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
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Re: Detroit?

Postby slowshooter » Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:53 pm

garyt wrote:
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garyt wrote:Presidential pre-candidate Lyndon LaRouche



I stopped reading right there. :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:


I suppose Bush and Clinton were better candidates, right?



There is a steaming dog turd out there somewhere that is a better candidate that LaRouche.

Sorry, make that somewhere almost everywhere there is a dog.
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Re: Detroit?

Postby Andy W » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:56 am

I think we need a little tolerance here.

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Re: Detroit?

Postby assateague » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:29 am

Clayton Biggsby, is that you?
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Re: Detroit?

Postby tenfingergrip » Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:39 am

Found this rather amusing real video of the Detroit police responding to a bank robbery. Modern day Keystone Kops?




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