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Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby sixXgun » Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:17 pm

http://hutchnews.com/Todaystop/A1--hunting-guide-story

Figured I would post up some relevant Kansas news....and we wonder why people turn us down when we ask for permission to hunt a field.

My opinion is a $250 fine will teach this guy nothing...another reason why people who GUIDE as a business should be required to be licensed, so when they do something stupid like this they can have their license taken away!
I understand making a mistake and crossing a property line you thought you had permission on, but as a guide I feel this kind of thing should never happen, especially admitting you didn't have permission! Your suppose to "GUIDE" people on a legal hunt that's why they pay you, not GUIDE them into a possible lawsuit!

I have personally lost permission on property I had hunted for years due to this outfitter and their disrespect towards the land owner....and guess what now no one can hunt the property! Thanks again!

Been a while since ive posted, that felt kinda good!
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby fowlhunter » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:16 pm

As long as nothing major happens to these guides nothing will change. I've heard of these guys doing this on a regular basis. Guides in Kansas are like the plague. It doesn't cost them anything. They don't have to carry insurance or have a license. Last but certainly not least they can profit off public ground for free!!!!

I talked to the man in charge of public ground in Kansas about this. He said he felt the same way and that I needed to contact the commissioners. I tried three different commissioners several times and never received a call back. Oh well I guess.
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby sixXgun » Mon Aug 05, 2013 3:47 pm

Thanks for sharing fowlhunter. I agree if they had to have insurance and carry a guides license it would keep alot of wanna be guides at home, and would stop alot of unecessary traffic on public land. This outfitter will put himself under before its all done...ha then he can change the name and do it again!
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby cluckmeister » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:06 pm

A fine of 346 dollars, what a joke, This guy should of lost his hunting privileges for 5 years with a 5 year probation after the 5 years was up.
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby duckdozer » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:24 pm

That fine iweak as hell he can pay for that with another 2 guns in blinds this yr, and paid for them with the guns in the blinds on that hunt.
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby havocforcer » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:56 pm

Yeah not big fans of these guys.. funny part is they take their crap to Canada and do the same bs every year.
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby sixXgun » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:25 am

I wonder if you can guide in Canada with a criminal charge like this one? I bet they forget to tell the outfitter they work for about this!
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby TomKat » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:36 am

fowlhunter wrote:As long as nothing major happens to these guides nothing will change. I've heard of these guys doing this on a regular basis. Guides in Kansas are like the plague. It doesn't cost them anything. They don't have to carry insurance or have a license. Last but certainly not least they can profit off public ground for free!!!!



As bas as they are for ducks, they are even worse when it comes to deer.

We need to raise the OOS fees to be on par with South Dakota.
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby cyoung24 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:18 pm

Welcome back TK.
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby fowlhunter » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:27 am

TomKat wrote:
fowlhunter wrote:As long as nothing major happens to these guides nothing will change. I've heard of these guys doing this on a regular basis. Guides in Kansas are like the plague. It doesn't cost them anything. They don't have to carry insurance or have a license. Last but certainly not least they can profit off public ground for free!!!!



As bas as they are for ducks, they are even worse when it comes to deer.

We need to raise the OOS fees to be on par with South Dakota.


Unfortunately I've felt the effects of that too. I lost deer hunting ground that I had hunted for 12 years to our local poacher, I mean guide. Between all the leases and low OOS cost, there aren't many safe public grounds for the locals to hunt!!
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Re: Giving honest hunters a bad name

Postby cluckmeister » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:08 am

Fowlhunter, theres lots of public ground to hunt, I once thought as you did that there just wasn't any public areas to hunt deer, BUT after spending some money for gas and scouting walk in hunting areas, Ive found several nice spots that no one but me hunt. It seems most hunters think the walkin areas are primarily for upland hunters, but there are lots of deer in those areas. BTW be prepared to drive a ways to find these good deer spots, possibly 150 miles minimum.
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