blackduckdog2 wrote:Probably not a lot of you guys are old enough. But I think it's worth pointing out that conservatives HATED this man, and everything he stood for. Sure, they've moderated their tone since, but I grew up among rock-ribbed New England Republicans (I won't even get into Southern conservatives, whether they were Republican or Democrats, and please feel free to point out the Southern Republicans who supported the Reverend) who despised Martin Luther King, to the point of applauding his killer. That's a legacy American consevatism has to deal with, no matter how much they've tried to spin it since
Conservative = New England Republicans
Your other flaw is that you had to like MLK personally to agree with what he said. This is in large part why we part ways so much. Ideas are ideas and their truthfulness is independent of who says them. A lovable person can be a moron and a prick can put forth brilliant ideas.
What little I have read about MLK is that there may have been good reason to not like him as a person. He was not a saint that is for sure. However, it is unlikely that a saint would have been successful in the world as it existed at that time. My guess is your "conservatives" were pro-establishment and all pro-establishment whether R or D was going to hate him for his open attack on the establishment, regardless of whether or not it was a just attack.
Just like you reject any affiliation with the party of slavery and segregation because even though the name did not change and the players did not change with few exceptions (Clinton's political lineage doesn't link to anti-segregationist nor Robert KKK Byrd, etc.), there is an obvious truth that Democrats of today advocate for different policies although they do seem to have the same practical impact of keeping minorities down
A conservative as you refer to New England Republicans are not the same as conservatives today. Let's focus on the veracity of the ideas, but yes many of the conservative ideas were liberal ideas at that time, why would anybody reject a good idea regardless of who first advocated it nor your initial reaction to it? Only someone obsessed with such group identity and group think or never being wrong gets stuck like that.
The left has left you BDD2. It's not about ideas and finding what works in practice. It is about amassing power. Sure just like conservatives, politicians will say whatever it takes to amass power and there are many people that desire their team winning far more than they worry about the practical impact of their policies. A true conservative and a true liberal will come to the same conclusion about the truth, but simply differ in their personal value judgments. Few of them exist. It is the antithesis of human nature. We all want the home team, OUR team, to win and will ignore often blatant wrongdoing on their part if it helps them win.
A politician thinks of the next election; a statesman of the next generation. A politician looks for the success of his party; a statesman for that of the country. The statesman wished to steer, while the politician was satisfied to drift.