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Gaep finisher

Postby bbs383ci » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:51 pm

Ok I'm ready to buy one of these. Which one do I need to get for 12 ga. They have several different models and I don't which one would be best. I also tried to send Solway gunner a pm but for some reason it looks like it is stuck in the outbox and didn't send. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby orphanedcowboy » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:19 pm

Outbox simply means he hasn't read it yet, it will switch to sent box once he has read it. Give him a chance and he will get back with you.

Which crimper are you wanting?
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby bbs383ci » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:29 pm

orphanedcowboy wrote:Which crimper are you wanting?


That's what I'm trying to find out, if they do the same thing why are there so many choices?
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby 3200 man » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:53 pm

I like and use both the BN2 and the BN4 made for lite and deeper crimps
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby bbs383ci » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:58 pm

well i am using 2 3/4" ched hulls shooting 1 1/8oz. steel out of them, i dont know if that helps, i would guess my average crimps are about as deep as a dime maybe a little less sometimes.

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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby retired » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:05 pm

If you use Steel powder. You need the BN4. That is what Solway told me. But wait till you here from him. I really like mine. I shoot a 1 1/8 oz 2 3/4 shell.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby bbs383ci » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:59 pm

Yes sir I'm using steel powder.

I love those 1 1/8oz loads in a small shell it surprises a lot of people.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby grnhd » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:29 pm

I'm curious,why do you feel you need a gaep finisher crimper?
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby Jon Bergren » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:47 pm

You don't unless you're cutting shells down to reload. The tapered crimp on my Mini Grand puts a beautiful final crimp on my shells. I do have a GAEP from Kev bought for me by Chris, 10gageOkie. It does an excellent job and does make a very nice crimp. I hold the load in Mec Super Sizer while rolling the regular crimp. I suspect you get a slightly higher pressure and velocity using the GAEP as the crimp is much tighter. If you are a perfectionist go for it. Ned S
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby StoneTower » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:53 pm

I think the heat generated by the Gaep also helps holds the crimps together better for those really tight loads.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby 10gaOkie » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:42 pm

Before I got a gaep finishing head, I was getting excellent crimps. By going to the gaep head, I now get perfect crimps. I too feel that they improve an already good load and their performance, pattern, velocity and consistancy. Thats just my opinion though from using one and shooting the loads.
My favorite load is a 2 3/4" 1 1/8oz of #2s at 1500fps which is a very tight fitting load. My head is the brass BN4. I also use the steel BN4 for 10ga as well.

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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby bbs383ci » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:01 pm

Chris I'm using the same load, but with 3's and B's.

And yes I like my shells to look as good or better than factory shells.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby 10gaOkie » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:17 pm

I just got a recent report back from Goosepit on his resent goose hunt using the same load with #1s. He said it is just as effective with the 1s as with #2s. He used the #2s for his spring snow goose hunts and the 1s on his canada hunts this past week.
Myself, I have only used it with #2s all last season and see no reason to change at this point. I dont get the snows, just ducks and big geese. He also mentioned that it was just as effective on high overhead shots as well compared to side shots only.

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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby HCK » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:02 pm

I m use bn2 2 3/4 and some 3 inch recipes and bn3 3 inch and 3 1/2 recipes. Every recipe what im shootet chrono gives those velocities what recipe says or little over that.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby solway gunner » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:43 pm

one of the other main features of using a gaep crimp finisher is you virtualy omit the setting on your final crimp station and can also forget about re adjustment when switching from different hulls in the same length eg rems to feds or vice versa etc.,you get the same finish every time without any fuss .
final crimp setting adjustment is responsible for a lot of folks throwing in the towel with reloading.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby bbs383ci » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:50 pm

Thanks Solway I just ordered it.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby grnhd » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:01 pm

Jon Bergren wrote: I do have a GAEP from Kev bought for me by Chris, 10gageOkie.


If he'll buy me one I'll try it. :lol3:
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby 10gaOkie » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:09 pm

Of course Ned reimbursed me for it. He failed to mention that fine detail.

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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby grnhd » Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:18 am

Oh OK,I thought maybe if you were buying them and handing them out, I'd take one to :yes:
I still don't understand why people need or want one. If a person can get published velocities and low velocity spreads,why go through the trouble of taking your loads out of a loader and then over to a drill press? I'm lost on what the advantage is? I wish somebody lived close to me had one so I could see for myself if I'm missing anything.
I do have a question for you guys with one,can you still get several loadings out of a hull or does this finisher limit the life of a hull?
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby Sagebrush » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:18 am

A picture of this unit would be nice............

maybe a finished shell too.........?

Everyone likes pictures.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby HCK » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:29 pm

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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby solway gunner » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:06 pm

sage heres a unit,this ones in brass,they come in steel too,i sell both.
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i could post lots of pictures of finished shells,but heres a few to give an idea of what you can achieve when using one.
rem 10ga loaded in typical average joe fashion on a mec steelmaster
before
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after (10ga bn4)
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more 10ga once fireds (10ga bn4)
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12ga new final crimp no taper mec jnr
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run straight under a gaep bn2
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in response to grhd ,using gaep crimp finishers helps beginners or experts alike to be on a level field with their shells.no need to struggle with final crimp settings which causes consternation and is a pain in the rear-(isnt that enough reason to own one in itself?.. ), likewise a guy with a lee load all can turn out a shell that looks better than a p/warren and most factorys too.
powder burn is optimal-increased burn rate= consistency throughout in pattern/velocity/load uniformity
no more "springing up"of crimps when left overnight experienced by loaders of certain presses/loads
10%less powder in some loadings for equal velocity or slight increase over conventionaly press loaded shells.,there are no negative effects on hulls affecting re loading other than than the usual self destruction caused by repeated use.
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby bbs383ci » Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:52 am

Solway ami going to have to drop powder charge in my loads?
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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby solway gunner » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:00 am

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Re: Gaep finisher

Postby bubba682 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:06 am

Where can i order one for ten gauge and how do they work.
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