here you go boys
Forget about it!
okbucksnducks wrote:My wife and I sent off our paperwork off a month and a half ago. Just waiting.
That equal force thing could make things iffy.
The thing I don't like is that there is no third party clause here, meaning you're only allowed to use deadly force to defend yourself, your spouse, a parent, a child, an employer, or an employee.
I agree. The OK self defense act seems to have very limited power. I think the reason...or A reason, they did that was to prevent someone from unknowingly shooting an undercover LEO. Permit holder sees someone being held at gunpoint, doesn't know the whole story to behind what's going on, bang. Woops.
My instructor did say that if there is a robbery in progress, gun pointed at employee, you could shoot them, but you're supposed to call 911 first.
Gonna have to read the entire self defense act again, to make sure I fully understand everything.
Seriously not trying to continue this "my instructor told me this, that and the other..." conversations, BUT it was MY understanding (mind you 5 years ago when it was Concealed Carry, not SDA) that you have the right to defend YOURSELF if you feel your life is in danger. NOT someone else. Hence the "Vigilante" rule. That is there to help prevent drawing your firearm on said undercover LEOs or the like. It is the job of the police to protect the public, not you.
I'm no lawyer, but I've seen that the law is interpretive. I know what a hostile intention and a hostile act are. Two VERY different things. One is just words or gestures while the other is life and death. I personally am not drawing my pistol on someone who wants to start a verbal altercation with me. BUT I am afraid to pull that bad mother out if they come at me with wanting to get physical. Hostile Intention and Hostile Act.
But seriously, if you are carrying and you feel the need to draw your pistol, do so with the intent of using it. Not to intimidate.
Disclaimer: I am NOT a law enforcement officer of any kind nor am I professional in the interpretation of the local, state or federal law. Consult your local police and personal attorney before killing someone.
Thank you and have a good day, fellow concealed/open carry persons.